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Anonymous 25/11/29(Sat)03:07 No. 17008 [Reply]
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fascism/authoritarianism is foundationally an ethos, so to speak, of the slavish man (in a broad nongender sense, though, the insecurity involved is perhaps unique to literal men) and their mistrust, excessive posturing as strong, and single-minded pursuit of (and slavish devotion to) dominance for its own sake, is all a testament to the fact they are always slaves who (always as a matter of circumstance and complacency) have managed to worm their way into positions of authority-- and always with the same catastrophic outcome for themselves-- and, ultimately, they will always be slaves, blinded by hubris and drowning in pomp and pageantry

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master%E2%80%93slave_morality


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Anonymous 25/11/29(Sat)20:46 No. 17012
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Interesting to note, much of the german's plan was to colonize and enslave the slavs, with their inspiration being the accepted mode of operation of western powers a century or two prior. Though, as it turned out, slave labor kinda sucked, as the enslaved weren't particularly productive and tended to sabotage the things they were tasked with making. So, the labor camps became death camps as their war effort went sideways.

Hm, dominance for profits sake is only slightly less atrocious? Force should only be used as a last resort (or obviously extreme/deleterious circumstances) to maintain a reasonable degree of social order? Absolute social order is a) unobtainable and b) demonstrably, attempting to achieve it leads, very much, to the opposite.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoT_NHoRKFI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T_98uT1IZs


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Anonymous 25/12/06(Sat)03:05 No. 17018
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Fascism equals violence


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Anonymous 25/12/06(Sat)14:13 No. 17020

>>17018
true in the sense that you can only suppress speech through the threat of violence, because if there's no threat, why would I care about your opinion about what I can or cannot say...




Competitiveness Anonymous 25/11/12(Wed)19:07 No. 16965 [Reply]
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Thomas Malthus's theory posits that competitiveness is an inevitable outcome of the struggle for existence. Why some of us seem to be lacking it? Why some people are just too lazy or too depressed to compete for anything? Sometimes we just want to survive on the bare minimal resources, avoiding effort at all costs.


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Anonymous 25/11/22(Sat)17:48 No. 16990

>>16989
Compete for money, status and power. This ultimately means to compete for more comfort, more security, more pleasure, more self-worthiness in life.


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Hang In There Kogasa San Express Delivery to Commander Lynx 25/11/22(Sat)19:42 No. 16991
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>>16990
You worked at the counter of a butchery factory as a tarted up whore. You'd better be reading from a prepared statement.


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Anonymous 25/11/30(Sun)13:34 No. 17013
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>>16989

philosophy in a nutshell eh?

restate what's been stated, argue semantics, coin a term (and maybe it becomes buzzwordy enough to sell some books)

On Principals of Socioconfluent Vibronics by M.M. Cummington 99.95

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diogenes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenophanes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q77YBmtd2Rw




Anonymous 25/11/25(Tue)09:38 No. 16997 [Reply]
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/one of the things about civilization is that once all its energy is invested in a particular ideal [regardless of what that ideal is] it is very difficult, despite [the obvious ramifications], for that civilization to change course/

to sorta paraphrase an apt thought from this nice talk on mayan archeology/society... we're still an agrarian peoples that, by and large, cling to much the same fantastical lore o' yore with shiny tech and cities to give us the illusion that we aren't

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFcugYGf4RQ


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Anonymous 25/11/25(Tue)10:58 No. 16998
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hey, we even do human sacrifice still, and as with everything, at a much larger scale... suppose we valued resolution more so... until then, prayers and rain dances~

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bfm7cOJfOjk


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banned from equestria daily 25/11/25(Tue)19:35 No. 17001
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>>16997
I would heavily question how you interpersonally define the concept of an ideal. An ideal cannot exist within one genetically homogenized person it must be shared amongst like minded mutations of the same set to count as a social instinct. The odd man out is the genetically superior or neurologically replete member that disguises themselves with emotionally and memetically invested ninjutsu.

">">『regardless of what the ideal is』a concept. How do you build a concept? The more dangerous question in a civilization of based fire is 'how do you tear a concept down and scatter knowledge of it to the dark corners of the mind'.

We are not an agrarian people. An agrarian people would vitally use every inch of space they could to dodge starvation. The sides of buildings would be grape wineries in fall and blackberry meeting spots in spring and olive orchards in summer. Highway meridians would not feature calmingly civilized fern plants but cactus and bamboo and small stands of corn or even coconuts. The amount of un harvested coconuts in Miami. The police will ride your ass for displaying common sense.

An agrarian society is a society of underwater cities and kelp farming and hydroponics. What this civilization is cannot move past the crescent fertile delta and the threat of the desert.

<<『the obvious ramifications』 are that the foreigner is the mythical creature that sojourns the desert and is made of the other. <<

The mathematical assumption being I'm not talking to my entire species with a single person. My species is not your species howsoever.


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Anonymous 25/11/27(Thu)04:56 No. 17006
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EigfHLZHQkE




Anonymous 25/11/23(Sun)23:08 No. 16992 [Reply]
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Can we as a society/civilization please refrain from legitimizing conspiracy "theorists" with the term "theorist".

Of course many of us understand that they are more analogous to religious believers than any kind of theoretician, where, the impetus is, more so, to disprove a theory. Where as, obviously, these folks have zero inclination to disprove their "theory" and, in fact, will readily discard any contrary information and readily grasp for anything that reinforces their cognitive-bias, even if it means fanciful (to say the least) mental gymnastics.

Indeed, dispensing with the belief brokers the same cognitive dissonance as doing so with a deeply (if not necessarily sincerely, or more aptly perhaps, with any kind of fidelity) held religious belief that underpins one's sense of self.

bonus aside, select leaders for their actions and not for their slogans or brand-affiliation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NIvo7z3Z90


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Anonymous 25/11/24(Mon)01:27 No. 16994

R u trying to bump off the legendary phi threads


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Anonymous 25/11/24(Mon)09:50 No. 16995
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which brings us to the concept of rabbit hole-ism, or in non-buzzword, and certainly not as intellectually deep /sounding/, parlance: tunnel vision

hm, contextual-ambiance~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7N51K7Cz-w




I accuse programmers of bourgeoisie Anonymous 19/06/17(Mon)23:46 No. 14025 [Reply]
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I wrote an essay https://byrd.im/on-language/

It’s in everyone’s best interest to take system design of computer networks out of greedy and possessive hands of software engineers, attempting a little revolution-like sleight of hand trick, that would allow anyone concerned with things like language, logic, and problem-solving—to easily learn about, or maybe even directly affect how things around them are run.


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katejonson 25/11/13(Thu)19:03 No. 16968

Die Unterstützung von Kommilitonen ist für mich unglaublich wichtig. Wir tauschen uns regelmäßig aus, geben uns Feedback und motivieren uns gegenseitig. Allein wäre alles viel schwieriger.


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a 25/11/13(Thu)19:21 No. 16969

Heute hatte ich Schwierigkeiten, meinen Aufsatz zu starten. Ich besuchte https://wirschreiben.com/diplomarbeit-schreiben-lassen/ und holte mir einige Ideen. Danach konnte ich alles selbst schreiben. Es ist praktisch, wenn man mal keine Inspiration hat, aber selbstständig arbeiten will.


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Anonymous 25/11/14(Fri)19:40 No. 16972
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>>14034
What do you want me to say that you don't already know is going to be said in advance? Sayonara and I'm taking your stolen children with me.
Say my name!
Artificial DNA aesop video game.




Anonymous 25/11/13(Thu)08:11 No. 16967 [Reply]
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What does the philosophy board think of this chart?




Anonymous 25/11/03(Mon)16:26 No. 16942 [Reply]
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In regards to the below excerpt-- should the ruler be an individual or an insular clique, then yes, they'll elevate themselves above the /masses/ and /liberate/ themselves so as to indulge at will and without restraint, however, should rule be vested in the populace, then the rulers (the people) will elevate themselves above humanity (namely it's carnal proclivities), however, should that rule not apply equally, then tyranny and trickle-down corruption.

"Sima Tan described the fa school (Fajia) as emphasizing administrative protocols that ignore kinship and social status, treating everyone equally and thereby elevating the ruler above humanity"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legalism_(Chinese_philosophy)

further reading,、yamabushichan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundred_Schools_of_Thought
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Schopenhauer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Aurelius
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diogenes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashoka
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_Goldman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helena_Blavatsky
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ci7VK75sMsY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUw3iSRCYwM
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Anonymous 25/11/03(Mon)16:33 No. 16943

There has never been a system of governance without an elite core at the helm.

Also the median person is dumb af.


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Anonymous 25/11/03(Mon)19:25 No. 16946
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>>16943
Perhaps optimists would simply ascribe their condition to complacency, and the point is moreso that the governing elite (a (highly) subjective term) must be held to account/standards (regardless of their role).

~

To be sure, indulgence is an inevitability, in hereditary systems you can have a philosopher king one day and a tween-tyrant the next, and in less pompous might-makes-right (or more aptly, barbarism-makes-dumb) regimes their very nature rewards and necessitates depravity/regression/intolerance which is ultimately deleterious to society, certainly modern complex (socially and technically) ones. Indeed, is there a modern civilization that employs such governance, that is not materially/culturally impoverished (even if they have a superficial facade to the contrary)?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedonism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Jung
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUC2EQvdzmY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIXUgtNC4Kc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eDkFlVSwnk


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Anonymous 25/11/11(Tue)00:15 No. 16961

>>16946
Most philosopher-kings were tyrants. And in hereditary system of government, most “tween tyrants” are only working on behalf of a vice-regent.




Anonymous 25/11/05(Wed)17:23 No. 16951 [Reply]
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what is longing other than protracted (and often unattainable) lust?

certainly a core emotion/trait to engrain/foster in a capitalist system, that's not to say, nor expected, that everyone ought to strive (a variant of longing?) for some aesthetic ideal... rather, a healthy/keen ability to discern frivolous shit and define oneself/others by the merit of their actions/character as opposed to their material accessories~ maybe.

nor is it advocacy for socialism, direct gov control of industry, or communism/collective-ownership (though sharing/cooperation is usually virtuous)-- hm, subsidized industry is indirect socialism? a free-market absolutist would argue that an enterprise should/must be allowed to succeed or fail on its own, why is it the role of government to provide welfare to an uncompetitive company (indeed, seems to only reward incompetitiveness-- a macro version of not wanting or needing to seek employment when you get a foodstamps, ya know)? To maintain employment? Is that not the precise function of a free market, to enable companies who can compete to replace those who can't... well, seemingly antiquated notions of nation-states and borders and such, aside. :/

miscellanea~
hyper-transcontextual-postsurrealism-addadjectivesandprofit~
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Pure_Ones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWLg7_G0_go
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eDkFlVSwnk


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Anonymous 25/11/05(Wed)17:52 No. 16952
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Hm, instead of being a colonialist social-club, perhabs the un (or some such organization) could serve as the basis for global-citizenship. :D

bbbut my tribal quasi-ethnic in-group, bro, my flag is who i am~

pie-in-the-sky and then you die, as the saying goes~

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuHeEWy3MmQ


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sage 25/11/08(Sat)00:43 No. 16957

>>16952
Define problem and I'll give you solutions, if I'm capable, now it sounds like you're just talking.

But if you ask me how to run society or civilization, I don't have the answer, to pretty much anything. Other than that if you consider yourself a good person, you should be powerful and capable. That's it. For now. The fog of war is too thick. But in a sense, yes, there is a war. But, if there is going to be a moment of clarity and the fog is lifted, even for just a minute, and I feel like such a moment will come, we will need the good men to be capable, because if that opportunity comes, yet we don't have the ones to fill in the roles, well, that opportunity might come only briefly or only once. I have an intuition that it will come.. and within our lifetimes. A RARE opportunity that usually doesn't show up for hundreds or thousands of years. Prepare for that, not by building a tribe or a family, prepare it for it by building yourself. No one will agree with you on your politics and your metaphysics. No one. Yet collaboration is worth it. It's just that right now the fog of war is too thick to know what to collaborate on.. for the most part.. there may be a thing of or two, but BUILD YOURSELF, for the most part.. as you put yourself on the trajectory of those one or two things.

Overall though, all of this is barely of any importance in the grand scheme of things. Because... the grand scheme of things.. is rather grand.


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sage 25/11/08(Sat)00:46 No. 16958

This better
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jmdiKePVUy8




the philosophy of sleep and death is the ultimate philosophy caller sign - Neptune 25/11/03(Mon)17:47 No. 16944 [Reply]
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Yesterday I fell asleep. The day before that, at the end of the day - I still fell asleep. Today I may fall asleep. Tomorrow I'll either fall asleep or I will die.

#eepybby


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Anonymous 25/11/03(Mon)17:53 No. 16945

>>16944
It's one of the few things that puts my restless mind to ease

#eepyboy




Anonymous 25/11/02(Sun)12:38 No. 16935 [Reply]
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An philosophical consideration of economics and governance.

bros, fiat currency be built upon complex bureaucratic/technical systemS and crapto all the more so. And, any material stores of wealth are subject to depletion and/or entropy (natural or/and anthropomorphic)... and if dat shit ain't food, it's intrinsic value rests solely upon faith that it can be exchanged for food.

Which brings us to the importance of stable/rational good-faith actors of semi-at-least competence, /wise/ if you're given to idealism (wild,、 should you subscribe to cynicism in the modern mode)~

bros before hoes, but sometimes bros can be hoes, in the infidelity/treasury sense, so ya know, trust and discernment

~to state ze obvious~

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnT58cIJSpw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjRQxRREIqk


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Anonymous 25/11/02(Sun)18:25 No. 16936

Idk, most of my value as a man is lock into pension funds and Argentian mining companies. If shit hits the fan I've got nothing, I don't even have woman or children.


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Anonymous 25/11/02(Sun)19:05 No. 16937
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sugar and spice and (eventually) everything nice
spice and sugar and combustion (your mother)
~」𧬆「~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BQLE_RrTSU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxzgwJ8tSE0


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Anonymous 25/11/02(Sun)19:36 No. 16938
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>>16936
not to be condescending, but don't worry about being a man (or anything really)~ enjoy existence, be mindful of friends, family/community and enjoy what you have while you have it and, if so inclined, do what you can to improve the lot of humanity as a whole
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2W4z9n8Te0





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