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Anonymous 22/04/28(Thu)06:19 No. 14936 [Reply]
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Friends, I'm dying for direction. What I want is Solipsism as a topic handled from an Existential standpoint, not epistemologically. I want to learn about how Hollywoodian Solipsism effects our mentality and turns us into self-serving drones. I know that might be too opinionated and specific so I am also fine with anything that touches it tangentially. If you have any thoughts on the issue yourself I'd love to hear it.


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Anonymous 25/02/14(Fri)00:40 No. 15973

>>15639
The article literally claims the opposite


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Anonymous 25/02/16(Sun)01:40 No. 15986

>>14936
> I want to learn about how Hollywoodian Solipsism effects our mentality and turns us into self-serving drones

Oh boy another one of those kind of people


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Anonymous 25/02/16(Sun)01:40 No. 15987

Solipsism is the seed of the main character syndrome that affects anyone who is invested in politics




Virtues produce freedom of mind and soul Anonymous 24/05/24(Fri)08:08 No. 15413 [Reply]
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Virtues produce freedom, sins enslave you to externals

Let's take an example for this. Let's say you are sitting on a park bench and you are solving a lengthy math problem in your head. Remember your will is only to solve that math problem going on in your head. Now let's say a car passes by and the driver gives you the middle finger. If you get angry, your mind is off that math problem and on to the man who flipped you off, your will is lost, but if you forgive that man instantaneously, your solving of the math problem remains undisturbed. An attractive women passes by, if you lust after her, again the math problem is off your mind, and that woman is now in your head, the lust consumes you and kills your will. You see a beautiful car and you desire it(materialism/greed), now instead of the math problem that car consumes your mind. Solving the lengthy math problem will take time, but if you become impatient, things like frustration will fill your mind and you will never be able to solve that problem, patience would keep you unperturbed.

Now let's come off this example. Vanity is a rather obvious one, in vanity a person thinks he/she is "better than others or the best", now those terms "better" and "best" are comparison terms, hence your whole existence is defined by those around you, so you are obviously a slave to externals. Pride isn't so obvious, let's say you are proud of your math skills while in 3rd grade, and biology is about to be introduced as a specialized subject in grade 6. Now biology might be the love of your life, but since you have already defined yourselves by math due to pride in the past, you won't be able to freely move on to biology and ditch math altogether. Pride in something now kills your options and free movement in the future. Envy is rather obvious, your being is defined by feeling bad for someone what has or has achieved, your being is a slave to something external. Addictions to anything also obviously enslave you.

Now on to love, if you give up your will out of love for others, you become freer than before. It is almost a paradox, but if one applies this they can learn this through experience. That is all I can say about love, you gotta try it.

In short, virtues are the only way to produce freedom of mind and soul, if you have any sin it means you are a slave.


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Anonymous 24/05/26(Sun)07:29 No. 15420

>>15417
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Also define "love"
For this I'll end up giving the Biblical description of love, visit the following link for it,

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%2013%3A4-8&version=NASB

>The biggest enslaver is idealism.
This isn't about idealism, to be mentally free one needs to be free from or stay away from mental cages (like you'd stay away from "idealism"). The original post is an attempt to describe what cages your mind and soul, and what sets it free.


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Anonymous 24/11/24(Sun)11:24 No. 15773

It's a risky path, as one's clinging to their conception of virtues in order to become free to e.g. solve some math problem instead of having sexual affairs etc, may cause them to miss on a lot of social and intellectual capital otherwise accumulated by embodied experiences on a variety of topics, and may end up with a little power or influence regarding one's life or protect oneself from the hordes of people displaying no virtues. Let alone their systems of financial coercion, supervision, violence etc.


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Anonymous 25/02/14(Fri)03:03 No. 15978

>>15773
Since it is (the freedom of) the soul we're talking about here, the body also counts as an external influence. You talk about "sexual affairs", well lust is simply some chemicals produced in your body, should the soul be subjected to chemicals produced in the body? Wouldn't that enslave the soul and limit it to laws of chemistry and physics?




Anonymous 16/08/31(Wed)03:45 No. 12662 [Reply]
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About free will.

Are you reading this text voluntarily? My personal guess is, that many will instinctively answer with yes. In German the adjective „voluntarily“ is translated to „freiwillig“, which means „with free will“ or more literal „free willy“.
Bad jokes aside, the definition of doing something voluntarily, is taking action according to your own free will.
Now why I am focusing on this is, because I want to explore what it actually means to do something voluntarily, along the axis of determinism and free will.

Let’s assume you answered yes to the question of reading this text voluntarily.
And let’s assume our brains do function deterministically.
That would mean, you just had an illusion about having a free will.
The illusion, that you did have a choice, not to read this text this far. Some unknown law, which we try to approximate in the natural sciences, is entirely responsible for what you just did, including the feeling of doing it voluntarily.
It also means, that if you were able to go back in time, every time you did do so, the world and the universe would develop exactly the way they have always been destined to. Including you, reading this text, over and over again. Like a clockwork turning back and forth.
Consciously experiencing a movie that doesn’t feel like a movie but real.
Being aware of this fact also means, that one of the characteristics of this deterministic system is, that it can understand itself.
Let’s have a look at it understanding itself.
If the voluntary guy exists in this deterministic system, his thoughts are part of this system and his conscious experience of having acted voluntarily describes the system in the same way, as an experience of not having done so, would.
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Anonymous 24/08/31(Sat)23:47 No. 15615

words take on new meanings aside from those implied by the etymology.

lets accept the lack of free will, then what doss it mean to act voluntarily?

well, here it means that
A. your brain was informed about the consequences they could expect from giving their consent.
B. your brain was not influenced into expressing your consent by the perception of some external threat that is added as a consequence to refusal by the one making the ask of you.

im a pragmatist, nice to meet you, yes we are all autistic af.


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Anonymous 24/09/03(Tue)06:35 No. 15627

Free will is relative. It's not absolute.
Nothing in this plane of existence is absolute.


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Anonymous 25/02/14(Fri)00:29 No. 15970

>>15627
>Nothing in this plane of existence is absolute.
You do see the hypocrisy in your statement don't you




Plato's Democracy to Tyranny Anonymous 18/04/19(Thu)19:20 No. 13503 [Reply]
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In the United States and other western democracies (see it's in the phrase). We are currently in a degenerate cosmopolitan democracy that values wealth, possessions, and sex over virtue and intellectual pursuits. From here individuals are atomized. They begin to hate their situation and they demand the rule of a tyrant. This explains the phenomena of Trump, the support for Bernie Sanders, and even some of the youths support for Jeremy Corbyn in the UK.

As an American, I was surprised by the vociferous response of virtually any progressive millennial to brexit. I couldn't understand why they cared. Until it dawned on me, we have become so cosmopolitan that people want an all powerful supranational entity to rule over their quasi-bohemian lifestyle.


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Anonymous 24/06/30(Sun)10:32 No. 15515

>>14307
This is also the same problem with the current idea of maturation.

Ancient society used to have children participate in industrial and political.affairs.
Most people nowadays lack the basic skills for propr adulthood.
They cannot cook, clean, fix machinery, etc.
But they feel entitled to have a spouse and suburban minimansion just because theyre "old enough".

People nowadays whine about being single amd lonely yet theyre still screwing around with booze amd drugs or binge watching TV and focusing on "get rich quick schemes".
They want to have a perfect marriage despite having a high body count, dietary-induced disorders, anxiety, paraphilia, overweightness,


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Anonymous 24/09/01(Sun)00:01 No. 15616

my political opinions are simple:

- we should get rid of representitive democracy, elected leadership has got all the problems that arose under monarchy, but worse because the people are less willing to rise up against the system.
- i propose one of the three; either we go back to having absolute supreme leaders such as a monarchy or dictatorship, or we install a true (direct) democracy where legislative policy is made by a direct vote of the people, or we go full lolbert and establish some barebones set of minarchist laws that are necessary to keep a society stable, and count on covenant communities and natural consequnces to shape the laws of every region beyond the basic laws of ownership regard oneself and ones property (dont kill, dont steal, etc. - plus we can play the fun game of deciding who gets coverage under the laws of the nap), minimal law like those offered up under the principle of nonaggression are also good for eugenics as the dumbasses and asshats are permitted to cull themselves by way of their own inferiority.

- in any event, political change can only come through a circumvention of the system, and that means violent revolution. the goal of a good activist group should be the deatruction or nationalization of their country's (((central banking))) and (((revenue collection)).


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Anonymous 24/12/30(Mon)07:12 No. 15853

>>14265
Everyone whines about loss of virtue. The problem is virtue is often romanticised as pretentious scholasticism




Atheism Spectrum Disorder Anonymous 24/04/20(Sat)17:24 No. 15387 [Reply] [First 100 posts] [Last 50 posts]
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3364254/
>Religious believers intuitively conceptualize deities as intentional agents with mental states who anticipate and respond to human beliefs, desires and concerns. It follows that mentalizing deficits, associated with the autistic spectrum and also commonly found in men more than in women, may undermine this intuitive support and reduce belief in a personal God.
>...it is possible that the autism spectrum is associated with interest in math, science, and engineering (IMSE), which in turn reduces religious belief.

If autistic people lack the ability to understand other people's feelings and desires, then obviously there can be no moral imperative for them to care about anyone other than themselves. If your life is based on numerical values in a graph, calculations using formulas and looking at the world through a mechanistic lense then you become sociopathic.
I've never met an autistic person that wasn't socially awkward and giving off creepy serial killer vibes.


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Anonymous 25/08/12(Tue)23:39 No. 16709

>>16705
I don't think that it's deliberate on their part, yes it is something they're born with but most of it is just bad genetics coupled with unwillingness / inability to overcome their insufficiencies.


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Anonymous 25/08/14(Thu)10:05 No. 16711

They are literal niggers of the world of mental disorders.


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Anonymous 25/08/14(Thu)10:41 No. 16712

>>16696
It looks bleak for them.




Suppose Diogenes and Buddha meet Anonymous 21/11/27(Sat)18:55 No. 14847 [Reply]
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What would they say to each other, assuming they would overcome the language barrier?


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Anonymous 22/02/20(Sun)12:58 No. 14903

get out of my sun normie


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Anonymous 22/02/25(Fri)18:01 No. 14906

“Is there a dragon howl in a dead tree?”
“I say there’s a lion roar in a skull.”


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Anonymous 24/08/15(Thu)17:01 No. 15590

"Stop masturbating in public"
"No"
"Ok"




Give it your best show Anonymous 24/07/14(Sun)14:44 No. 15542 [Reply]
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"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take."




Anonymous 22/02/20(Sun)17:56 No. 14904 [Reply]
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I'm starting to think that adults are the ones with a penchant for make-believe rather than children.

Seriously. Ask the average adult about natural science and see how much they know.
Some will even deny it as "NWO bullshit."

But, they somewhat seem to know about every and any urban myth under the sun.

If kids are laughed at for believing in Santa and the tooth fairy, how are grown ass men applauded for believing that the earth is flat?

Adults seem to care more about metaphors and abstractions rather than the technical/physical world in front of them.

How many counselling books about marriage, work, and family must be written and collect dust on boomers' personal shelves?


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Anonymous 22/02/20(Sun)18:50 No. 14905

are you experienced? have you ever been experienced? well I am.


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Anonymous 24/05/28(Tue)19:13 No. 15428

bump




Anonymous 21/06/25(Fri)03:46 No. 14777 [Reply]
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It's scary sad how many people think this guy is actually intelligent. He's a good public speaker and has a highly polished script but any time he used to try to go off script to address novel rebuttals to his arguments and he sounded like an autistic NPC.


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Anonymous 24/02/01(Thu)17:28 No. 15374

Is he a Christian apologist?




Blind faith is inescapable Anonymous 23/09/26(Tue)13:39 No. 15344 [Reply]
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If we come to think about it everyone is operating based upon blind faith to one degree or another. I mean, for a start, let's take what we all consider to be historical "facts". Let's consider two people arguing over a historical "fact". One sites one "source", the other sites another. Both are convinced 100% that what they believe(only believe) to be historically true is true indeed. But none of them were present/alive when the historical "fact" they are discussing happened, none of them observed it with their own senses, so in the end it is just "faith". They calculated in their brains a "plausible" reason to put their "blind faith" in whatever historical source they chose to believe.

Same is true for a lot of science and scientific "facts". People observe a few things mentioned in their science textbooks/websites/papers/whatever, and then choose to put "blind faith" in whatever other things mentioned in their scientific sources that they didn't observe themselves(through experiments or their senses). I mean I am a Christian, and I am sure the most of Bible deniers could find at least 1 or 2 things in the Bible they agree with, but they would counter, test, and try to confirm everything else mentioned in it(no problem with that, they should). But not with the historical and science sources. We observe some things to be true in the history or science sources, and then by nature consider everything else in them to be true, we all end up putting blind faith to varying degrees in our sources. I am not saying that those sources are invariably wrong, they may be right, but blind faith is inevitable.

Same with geographical "facts". No one has traveled the whole world for themselves, and confirmed things for themselves that what is shown on the maps is true, like let's say Asia is to the east of North America(just an example let's not get stuck at this point). Again, not saying that the maps are false, but we all do take them to be true blindly.

I'd go as far as to say, most of what a human being is composed of, what he is, is based on blind faith(which in no way implies that what we believe is untrue).


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Anonymous 24/01/14(Sun)19:52 No. 15366

>>15364
sure Christianity is about having an undeniable personal proof that God is real, but still the other points mentioned by me in the original post are true for you too. Everyone has to rely completely on faith at some points in this earthly life.


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Anonymous 24/01/16(Tue)02:01 No. 15367
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>>15366
Christ demanded faith be the lesson


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Anonymous 24/01/16(Tue)17:55 No. 15371

>>15367
faith is needed to reach Jesus, it is the starting point to go to Jesus, but eventually He gives you perfect personal proof that He exists, it is an undeniable proof tailor made for you(your unique personality). But even after that life still depends on faith in His goodness to obey Him, and even answers to prayers depends on faith, but He does give us clear proof that all 3 Godheads are real.





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