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cool, now you're confusing abiogenesis with modern cellular function.
show me who claimed a fully-formed, DNA-based cell popped into existence overnight again?
the early earth had billions of years of chemical activity, across countless environments, including hydrothermal vents, tidal pools, volcanic regions, meteorite impacts to make this happen.
it had so many dice it could roll, and it rolled the fuck out of them, constantly.
for BILLIONS OF FUCKING YEARS.
if you're calling it finally hitting a 7, an 11, a yahtzee, or whatever the fuck you want to use here a "miracle", you're an idiot.
the only thing you need is time, variation, and chemistry, and the early earth had far more than enough of all three.
>you'd need to prove how ribose, phosphate, purines, pyrimidines formed
okay, bet.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19444213/
RNA with simple sunlight, common molecules, and wet/dry cycles.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4568310/
yet another path to the same end.
you are 15 years behind with your retarded young earth creationist propaganda.
>nucleotide analogues would ruin it
early self-replicating systems likely didn't use modern nucleotides, dumbass.
they used simpler polymers (like [probably] RNA precursors), and natural selection eventually favored the stable and functional ones.
>too many stereoisomers and linkages
yes, early chemistry was messy
but selection works even at the molecular level. once a single, replicating system had an edge (even a small one), it would start to dominate.
selection is feedback, not perfection
>you need complex DNA regulation
modern DNA is complex because it had billions of years to roll dice and add modifiers.
the earliest replicators didn't even use DNA.
they probably used RNA, or even simpler precursors.
there's no reason to believe the early earth, with its billions of dice rolls, wouldn't have come up with the same results since it had the same ingredients.
it's the "room filled with monkeys and typewriters writing shakespeare" scenario, except there's a steady new flow of monkeys and typewriters any time one of them dies or the typewriters break.
>there was no selective force to begin with
lmao wrong. dead wrong.
the moment anything could make more of itself (even imperfectly), natural selection kicks in.
even in a pool of junk, the molecule that replicates better starts taking over, with zero "intelligence" needed.