/phi/ - Philosophy

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For growing and shit or whatever I present to you:

THE BIG STICKIED THREAD OF PHILOSOPHY RESOURCES

Put in whatever resources that fit in here, whether it's from wikipedia, youtube, some university, or where ever. Just remember to keep it within the board's guidelines and rules.
Use it or lose it, faggots.

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Anonymous 22/07/24(Sun)18:34 No. 15021

https://www.youtube.com/c/KaneB
https://www.youtube.com/c/carneadesofcyrene
You can find there lectures on many philosophical subjects

Anonymous ## Mod ## 12/02/02(Thu)05:26 No. 5920 [Reply] [First 100 posts] [Last 50 posts] Stickied

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This thread is for discussion of the validity of religion(s) and arguments for and against the existence of god/gods.

Any other new posts about this subject will be deleted, or locked and referred to this one.

New threads about religious concepts that play inside their own ruleset are allowed, and we kindly ask that you refrain from turning those well meaning threads into arguments about religion as a whole.

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Anonymous 25/07/07(Mon)23:06 No. 16662

>>16642
Indeed. Indeed.

But hey, a scary thing makes a weird thing and a weird thing makes an interesting thing.

A mind that affects matter Anonymous 22/09/17(Sat)14:23 No. 15149 [Reply] [First 100 posts] [Last 50 posts]

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https://www.researchgate.net/publication/350862574_Psychophysical_interactions_with_a_double-slit_interference_pattern_Exploratory_evidence_of_a_causal_influence
>For the experimental data, the outcome supported a pattern of results predicted by a causal psychophysical effect

https://physicsessays.org/browse-journal-2/product/1424-4-dean-radin-leena-michel-and-arnaud-delorme-psychophysical-modulation-of-fringe-visibility-in-a-distant-double-slit-optical-system.html
>...these results were found to support von Neumann’s conclusion that the mind of the observer is an inextricable part of the measurement process.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/287506033_Reassessment_of_an_independent_verification_of_psychophysical_interactions_with_a_double-slit_interference_pattern
>Baer's independent analysis confirmed that the optical apparatus used in this experiment was indeed sensitive enough to provide evidence for a psychophysical effect.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/258707222_Consciousness_and_the_double-slit_interference_pattern_Six_experiments
>The results appear to be consistent with a consciousness-related interpretation of the quantum measurement problem.

Apparently there is a strong aversion within the scientific community regarding how consciousness tends to go beyond regular cause and effect when you measure its influence on its surroundings. The materialistic interpretation of reality fails to explain why these unusual occurences exist and why you can never see a physical link between these events.

Are you convinced that there is only matter in this universe and nothing else?
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Anonymous 25/11/03(Mon)00:31 No. 16941

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>>16940
t.

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Anonymous 25/11/12(Wed)10:24 No. 16963

>>16914
The biggest issue is that they can only understand tangible concepts like numbers and equations. Immaterial minds are impossible to grasp but what's worse is that they're face blind too. Like trying to communicate with a machine that is totally alien to the human experience.

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Anonymous 25/12/11(Thu)18:07 No. 17021

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>>16963
Ironically there are physicists that disagree with the assumption that genetics determine the appearance of flowers and plants.

https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1996JThBi.178..255D/abstract
>Phyllotaxis as a Dynamical Self Organizing Process Part I: The Spiral Modes Resulting from Time-Periodic Iterations
>By means of a physics experiment and a numerical simulation, it is demonstrated that this system gives rise to the self organization of the spiral phyllotactic structures.

Anonymous 25/11/29(Sat)03:07 No. 17008 [Reply]

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fascism/authoritarianism is foundationally an ethos, so to speak, of the slavish man (in a broad nongender sense, though, the insecurity involved is perhaps unique to literal men) and their mistrust, excessive posturing as strong, and single-minded pursuit of (and slavish devotion to) dominance for its own sake, is all a testament to the fact they are always slaves who (always as a matter of circumstance and complacency) have managed to worm their way into positions of authority-- and always with the same catastrophic outcome for themselves-- and, ultimately, they will always be slaves, blinded by hubris and drowning in pomp and pageantry

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master%E2%80%93slave_morality

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Anonymous 25/11/29(Sat)20:46 No. 17012

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Interesting to note, much of the german's plan was to colonize and enslave the slavs, with their inspiration being the accepted mode of operation of western powers a century or two prior. Though, as it turned out, slave labor kinda sucked, as the enslaved weren't particularly productive and tended to sabotage the things they were tasked with making. So, the labor camps became death camps as their war effort went sideways.

Hm, dominance for profits sake is only slightly less atrocious? Force should only be used as a last resort (or obviously extreme/deleterious circumstances) to maintain a reasonable degree of social order? Absolute social order is a) unobtainable and b) demonstrably, attempting to achieve it leads, very much, to the opposite.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoT_NHoRKFI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T_98uT1IZs

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Anonymous 25/12/06(Sat)03:05 No. 17018

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Fascism equals violence

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Anonymous 25/12/06(Sat)14:13 No. 17020

>>17018
true in the sense that you can only suppress speech through the threat of violence, because if there's no threat, why would I care about your opinion about what I can or cannot say...

Competitiveness Anonymous 25/11/12(Wed)19:07 No. 16965 [Reply]

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Thomas Malthus's theory posits that competitiveness is an inevitable outcome of the struggle for existence. Why some of us seem to be lacking it? Why some people are just too lazy or too depressed to compete for anything? Sometimes we just want to survive on the bare minimal resources, avoiding effort at all costs.

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Anonymous 25/11/22(Sat)17:48 No. 16990

>>16989
Compete for money, status and power. This ultimately means to compete for more comfort, more security, more pleasure, more self-worthiness in life.

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Hang In There Kogasa San Express Delivery to Commander Lynx 25/11/22(Sat)19:42 No. 16991

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>>16990
You worked at the counter of a butchery factory as a tarted up whore. You'd better be reading from a prepared statement.

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Anonymous 25/11/30(Sun)13:34 No. 17013

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>>16989

philosophy in a nutshell eh?

restate what's been stated, argue semantics, coin a term (and maybe it becomes buzzwordy enough to sell some books)

On Principals of Socioconfluent Vibronics by M.M. Cummington 99.95

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diogenes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenophanes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q77YBmtd2Rw

??? lenaballerina 25/11/26(Wed)19:19 No. 17002 [Reply]

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Sometimes i think humanity is a disgusting concept.

But how do we know what to make of something? Is it beautiful or sickening? It's like going down a rabbit hole, each experience guiding your path, as you go further.

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Anonymous 25/11/27(Thu)04:34 No. 17003

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yes, existence is a compounding of previous experiences (including knowledge acquisition) that afford us the ability ascertain what 'thing' is in the present and project what 'thing' will be in the future.

arguably, humanity isn't a concept but a concrete amalgamation of nested systems functioning in systems, the more one understands said functioning (even in a broad sense) then the better one can appreciate the positive elements and mitigate the negative ones

categorically, avoid rabbit holes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_dynamics

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Anonymous 25/11/27(Thu)04:50 No. 17004

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>>17003
hm, to revise somewhat

appreciate the whole and increase/fortify the positive

pros/cons, sustainability, balance, etc etc

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Anonymous 25/11/27(Thu)14:06 No. 17007

>>17004
It's a simple matter of taste and preference. Not everyone has to be into exactly the same things. What is more to say about it?

Anonymous 25/11/25(Tue)09:38 No. 16997 [Reply]

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/one of the things about civilization is that once all its energy is invested in a particular ideal [regardless of what that ideal is] it is very difficult, despite [the obvious ramifications], for that civilization to change course/

to sorta paraphrase an apt thought from this nice talk on mayan archeology/society... we're still an agrarian peoples that, by and large, cling to much the same fantastical lore o' yore with shiny tech and cities to give us the illusion that we aren't

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFcugYGf4RQ

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Anonymous 25/11/25(Tue)10:58 No. 16998

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hey, we even do human sacrifice still, and as with everything, at a much larger scale... suppose we valued resolution more so... until then, prayers and rain dances~

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bfm7cOJfOjk

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banned from equestria daily 25/11/25(Tue)19:35 No. 17001

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>>16997
I would heavily question how you interpersonally define the concept of an ideal. An ideal cannot exist within one genetically homogenized person it must be shared amongst like minded mutations of the same set to count as a social instinct. The odd man out is the genetically superior or neurologically replete member that disguises themselves with emotionally and memetically invested ninjutsu.

">">『regardless of what the ideal is』a concept. How do you build a concept? The more dangerous question in a civilization of based fire is 'how do you tear a concept down and scatter knowledge of it to the dark corners of the mind'.

We are not an agrarian people. An agrarian people would vitally use every inch of space they could to dodge starvation. The sides of buildings would be grape wineries in fall and blackberry meeting spots in spring and olive orchards in summer. Highway meridians would not feature calmingly civilized fern plants but cactus and bamboo and small stands of corn or even coconuts. The amount of un harvested coconuts in Miami. The police will ride your ass for displaying common sense.

An agrarian society is a society of underwater cities and kelp farming and hydroponics. What this civilization is cannot move past the crescent fertile delta and the threat of the desert.

<<『the obvious ramifications』 are that the foreigner is the mythical creature that sojourns the desert and is made of the other. <<

The mathematical assumption being I'm not talking to my entire species with a single person. My species is not your species howsoever.

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Anonymous 25/11/27(Thu)04:56 No. 17006

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EigfHLZHQkE

Anonymous 25/11/23(Sun)23:08 No. 16992 [Reply]

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Can we as a society/civilization please refrain from legitimizing conspiracy "theorists" with the term "theorist".

Of course many of us understand that they are more analogous to religious believers than any kind of theoretician, where, the impetus is, more so, to disprove a theory. Where as, obviously, these folks have zero inclination to disprove their "theory" and, in fact, will readily discard any contrary information and readily grasp for anything that reinforces their cognitive-bias, even if it means fanciful (to say the least) mental gymnastics.

Indeed, dispensing with the belief brokers the same cognitive dissonance as doing so with a deeply (if not necessarily sincerely, or more aptly perhaps, with any kind of fidelity) held religious belief that underpins one's sense of self.

bonus aside, select leaders for their actions and not for their slogans or brand-affiliation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NIvo7z3Z90

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Anonymous 25/11/24(Mon)01:27 No. 16994

R u trying to bump off the legendary phi threads

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Anonymous 25/11/24(Mon)09:50 No. 16995

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which brings us to the concept of rabbit hole-ism, or in non-buzzword, and certainly not as intellectually deep /sounding/, parlance: tunnel vision

hm, contextual-ambiance~
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7N51K7Cz-w

Anonymous 25/11/21(Fri)14:24 No. 16979 [Reply]

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one supposes, obviously, that the simple fact of the matter is that free-will is much too terrifying for much of the herd, and they are much more inclined (perhaps reticent) to wear the labels and play the roles doled out by those they merely perceive as having some sort of authority, when in actuality, the exalted among us, too, are beholden to self-imposed... farce.

To be sure, if the role is brimming with excess licentiousness, then all the better.

For where is conducting one's self civilly and with the common-interest at heart of interest?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCZcBmaZbl0

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Anonymous 25/11/21(Fri)16:33 No. 16980

#41- Scholars of the highest class, when they hear about the Tao, earnestly carry it into practice. Scholars of the middle class, when they have heard about it, seem now to keep it and now to lose it. Scholars of the lowest class, when they have heard about it, laugh greatly at it. If it were not thus laughed at, it would not be fit to be the Tao (...)

#1- (...) Always without desire we must be found, if it's deep mystery we would sound; But if desire always within us be, It's outer fringe is all that we shall see (...)

I'd offer to translate, but I really don't know how it can be said any more clearly..

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Anonymous 25/11/21(Fri)20:08 No. 16984

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perhaps it's that free-will (or personal liberty) is readily (and very much intentionally) conflated with anarchy/disorder/disobedience

obviously the result of a tradition that proposes that the "natural order" descends from a divinity (with a top-down definition) to the king/regent and then on down the hierarchy (to be obeyed by the peasantry) COMPOUNDED with (particularly in the west) that /kernel of truth/ (again, same definition source) that human beings are inherently sinful/wicked and sans the hierarchy all would be lost

what humans are, inherently, is social and compassionate (lest perverted to believe otherwise) AND opportunistic (i.e. those prone to do the perverting) ... hence the necessity of lore and order, obviously based in reason and insulated against the more eager and unscrupulous opportunists; constant vigilance etc. etc.

of course, opportunism is also a trait highly conducive to survival for a generalist species such as ourselves

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhu_Xi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgyG9sScQ1U

Anonymous 25/11/14(Fri)15:10 No. 16971 [Reply]

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hm, conservatives (if in name only) went from premarital sex and sexually active teens is bad, to condoning pedophilia and sex trafficking.

obviously they can't (but almost certainly will) argue cultural relativity, anthropology, or history (our lifespans were much more brief, thus procreating as early as possible so as to raise the child before the parents died) because it would be woke and such.

to be sure, procreation or genuine affection is not really the objective, so much as wanton gratification for a self-entitled few and selectively for those who adequately fill the coffers, well, should it be politically expedient to afford the unkempt masses an indulgence or two.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ToBlvZZxJ4

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Anonymous 25/11/14(Fri)19:43 No. 16973

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and of course, every human group in history has had norms/customs and transgressing, particularly egregiously (all the more so if compounded with glaring hypocrisy), is normally met with repercussions. and most people, certainly those with compassion and ethics/morality, don't tolerate abuse and exploitation of vulnerable/weak members of their society (or humanity in general), i.e. women and children. though, one supposes, chivalry is as foreign a concept as learning.

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Anonymous 25/11/14(Fri)20:03 No. 16974

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hey, isn't there a term for people who propose radical, and often rapid, societal change... /progressives/ correct?

ladies, ya'll don't need to apply liberal amounts of makeup or get liberal injections of botox to prove your worth, and if yo man don't like it, he has the liberty to find a new (prepubescent seems to be the ideal) female (or male) and you can liberate yourself from the shackles of repression and maybe hook-up with a sensitive liberal-arts professor (free lattes, amirite?), or something~ LIBerty is kinda nice, eh~