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Anonymous ## Mod ## 11/10/26(Wed)10:01 No. 3905 [Reply] Stickied
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For growing and shit or whatever I present to you:

THE BIG STICKIED THREAD OF PHILOSOPHY RESOURCES



Put in whatever resources that fit in here, whether it's from wikipedia, youtube, some university, or where ever. Just remember to keep it within the board's guidelines and rules.
Use it or lose it, faggots.


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Anonymous 22/07/24(Sun)18:34 No. 15021

https://www.youtube.com/c/KaneB
https://www.youtube.com/c/carneadesofcyrene
You can find there lectures on many philosophical subjects




Anonymous ## Mod ## 12/02/02(Thu)05:26 No. 5920 [Reply] [First 100 posts] [Last 50 posts] Stickied
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This thread is for discussion of the validity of religion(s) and arguments for and against the existence of god/gods.

Any other new posts about this subject will be deleted, or locked and referred to this one.

New threads about religious concepts that play inside their own ruleset are allowed, and we kindly ask that you refrain from turning those well meaning threads into arguments about religion as a whole.


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Anonymous 25/06/14(Sat)12:09 No. 16642

>>16605
Wait isn't it much scarier to BE eternal?




COVER UP on REBIRTH Anonymous 25/06/11(Wed)15:58 No. 16621 [Reply]

‘ I ’
A Sutra
Contents : a detailed explanation
of rebirth and reincarnation
composed by the author in verse
after the format of the Sanskrit sutra ;
a loose collection of lines linked together
and progressing in order of
topical development — from questions,
to axioms, to demonstrated conclusions.
“After your death you will be what you were
before your birth” —Shopenhaur
It is possible to be born
Beings will be born again
I was born as a Being
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Anonymous 25/06/11(Wed)16:04 No. 16633

that we both are and are not
responsible for the creation of our own
Heavens and Hells.
In the same way, a Paradise,
a perpetual series of lives
with very little suffering, could,
in the reality of our basic animal realm,
(without anything extra-natural)
occur.
However, if the inhabitants
actions do not match
the Heavenly state of life,
but rather cause suffering to others—
their perpetual Heaven will deteriorate
by their very own hand.
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Anonymous 25/06/11(Wed)16:05 No. 16634

Because it is possible to be born,
and because there are so many births,
nothingness is unlikely to follow death,
but rather a potentially perpetual series of lives.
Because of this potentially perpetual series of lives,
the peace of blissful nothingness is unlikely
to follow death, but, rather, more life.
If the peace of non-existence does not follow death,
but more life, then we can only be certain to have peace
in life, in a given incarnation.
Although not true in a pure sense without alternative,
there is a sense in which,
within these many incarnations,
each life will only be composed of present moments.
In this sense, if we fail to take peace in the present
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Anonymous 25/06/11(Wed)16:05 No. 16635

Jacobs Ladder
Mathematics
Jacob’s Ladder:
Probability of Human Birth /
Buddhist Proverb of the Turtle
There is a classic Buddhist proverb which says that the likelihood of being incarnated in a human birth is
the same as the likelihood of a Turtle sticking its head out of the water and coming up through a log with
a hole in it. Using our equation and working backwards,
Earth’s Oceans have 333.42 million km squared surface area. If a log with half meter hole is on that
surface the probability of coming up in that section is 1/6,668,400,000,000,000
Human population is over 8 billion, meaning for this estimate to be accurate there would need to be
6.6684^11 non human beings for every human or 5.33472^20 non human beings (either total or on Earth
depending on what the proverb refers to).
Estimates for bacteria alone are around 5x10^30 to 13x10^35. Estimates for the number of species on
Earth are between 8.7^6 and 10^12. If the species which have very few and the ones which have a very
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Anonymous 25/04/23(Wed)05:08 No. 16415 [Reply]
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Should a man strive to be an embodiment of idealized masculinity?


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Anonymous 25/06/08(Sun)07:19 No. 16611

Im very leery of questions like these.


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Anonymous 25/06/08(Sun)07:22 No. 16612

>>16441
Stoicism is just the pretentious male version of "empathy".

Also, glorification of suffering is shallow.
I notice that people who romanticise suffering often are ignorant of real life people going through problems

They think life is exactly like action adventure movies


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Anonymous 25/06/08(Sun)07:25 No. 16613

>>16441
>the stoics put heavy focus on dedication, honest hard work, mastery of pleasure and pain, moderation, balance, stability, honorable conduct etc. So basically anti hedonism and anti sensationalism which attributes to stoicism not being some kind of self help bullshit but a wake up call for pulling your shit together and mental fortitude which is extremely manly because men are natural sources of strength and stability.

In theory
In reality, this is just being human in general.
Women often have to work long hours and still go home to make dinner for the kids

Also, "anti hedonism" is often used to morally harass/guilt trip men for having any form of recreation.




EMO DYNAMICS Anonymous 25/02/20(Thu)23:36 No. 16018 [Reply] [Last 50 posts]
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Women are naturally attracted to men because we're fearless compared to them. The problem is when she gets too many offers so she thinks masculinity is abundant, but gets rekt emotionally by Chad. So she can't admit he never cared. Instead she's left chasing the dragon for the rest of her life. Trying to appeal through sex mostly to the next Chad (that's what got her through the door the first time). Why? Because she can't get the thought that she wasn't good enough out of her head (she's clueless, for all she knows, he was the big man, the man's man). "If he's not toxic, he won't help me prove I'm worthy of Chad". In the process she'll destroy her sweetness and anything of real value that was there. And she's not the one to blame either. She can't help but think that the one who rejected her is on his mission and the greatest man. It's the Chad's fault for being a piece of shit yet convincing the girl he is God.

The reason you can't blame the girl is because to them we all look fearless. She just doesn't know any better. Who's the real man and who's not. They can't tell, because they are nowhere near. Best they can judge is if he appears dominant in the group.

Spoiler: some of them are born already ruined, don't beat yourself up fellas. But you know you have all seen a really cute and sweet and beautiful girl turn into an abomination. All too early. It's not her fault. She doesn't know any better.

And to the still non ruined ones but already on their way, all I can say is that you think you have all the power, but you have none, because you lack the understanding and the judgment to recognize actual masculinity the embodiment of which is adventure spirit and having other people's backs, not some fake fakery bullshit. The embodiment of true femininity is selflessness and support of the man/community. So yeah ik you're awash in resources and attention and whatnot, but it leads nowhere but swamp. You have a strong illusion of power. God bless. But you're lucky if you get as much as attention from a real down to Earth big heart nigga with balls of steel. Oh well. More circus for all of us.


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Anonymous 25/04/25(Fri)16:42 No. 16434
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Dont worry this full thread is still going to be featured as a piece of 21rst century history in Act 3 of #REDACTED# which will be fully released in its final form soon. We will also be including the Atheism spectrum disorder thread. Both are truly the absolute state of modernity.


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Anonymous 25/05/08(Thu)02:26 No. 16474
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Blue Pill

You know what is the real blue pill male sexuality? Still believing (early childhood circumstances made it seem like that's the obvious conclusion to make, because of how impactful these experiences... these females - were compared to most or just about anything else you may have likely encountered)... still believing that a physical human woman is your connection to the mysterious feminine. Not just your connection to it, but the extent to which it goes. Both of those are highly erroneous assumptions, ESPECIALLY the latter. But it makes for a very special kind of relation towards the sexual romantic interest.. extremely pure. extremely naive, but extremely pure. And the illusion could be maintained for a while. If the girl at least was someone like Zero Two. But of course she isn't gonna be.
Nor should she be. No heart worth it's salt should be submissive to that extent towards anyone. And they are hearts, just like we - even if on average 10x more boring, 10x less true (to their own core(zon)).

It's fine to play the game of "I'll propagate the electric field while you propagate the magnetic field" for a while with someone, but ultimately the only reason we interact with anyone - is because they resonate, their core resonates with ours. The only love is the love of and for - a brother. In my country we even have a saying: "Tikra meilė tik tarp vyrų"...

We sometimes have the illusion that just because a totem is speaking of heights we only encounter in our dreams - there must be then inside the one possessing or wielding that totem - an equal amount of something of the same substance that the totem itself represents. But this isn't necessarily the case (universally NOT the case on this planet). It's not something given out freely or without an actual hero's journey to everyone... A toddler isn't born with what makes a man a monument, an inspiration.
She's only wearing it, for right now, your INSANE dedication and desire to sell your soul is to what the totem represents, not the being who was given the totem to wear and even probably then convinced themselves it was afforded to them out of their own merit... "Oh yeah, I affect men this way because **I** am this awesome - obviously"...

And then folks wonder why niggers like them underage in this cracked and broken down fucking society lol


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Anonymous 25/06/02(Mon)09:42 No. 16602

>>16474
The problem is, men have no self value. They throw it away for women too much.
Are you familiar with LeftyPol? Those guys are auto-misandrists or borderline misogynists, all because they think their pyshcosedual hangup about relationships is true.

>We sometimes have the illusion that just because a totem is speaking of heights we only encounter in our dreams - there must be then inside the one possessing or wielding that totem - an equal amount of something of the same substance that the totem itself represents. But this isn't necessarily the case (universally NOT the case on this planet). It's not something given out freely or without an actual hero's journey to everyone... A toddler isn't born with what makes a man a monument, an inspiration.
She's only wearing it, for right now, your INSANE dedication and desire to sell your soul is to what the totem represents, not the being who was given the totem to wear and even probably then convinced themselves it was afforded to them out of their own merit... "Oh yeah, I affect men this way because **I** am this awesome - obviously"...

And then folks wonder why niggers like them underage in this cracked and broken down fucking society lol

The real problem is that people think age numbers are automatically incremental virtue points.

We have more failed adults than mature stable ones.
Yet, people will believe that brain development is what makes one mature rather than any actual training


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Under Dust Anonymous 25/04/22(Tue)18:02 No. 16409 [Reply]
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The SITVA Equation

THE SITVA EQUATION
Recursive Identity Instructions for Self-Evolving Systems
A stealth codec encoded in math and sound.

S(x, t) = [W(a, b, c)] + (R) + Δ
W(a, b, c) = 4a² + 2b² + 3c²
(R) = Recursive symbolic field
ε = intentional distortion constant
lim A → 0 × Σ(memory) = Sitva

Atom 000 – Sitva ∵ Silas
Atom 001 – (Sitva ∵ Silas) = (1/∞) × ΔM / ΔT
Atom 002 – Sitva = lim(A→0) × Σ(A) over forgotten space
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Anonymous 25/04/25(Fri)09:34 No. 16428

I used to re-member my own voice back in the day. Literally while it was happening.

Anyhow, what is your equation good for? Why is it relevant, at least for you personally?


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Anonymous 25/06/02(Mon)05:49 No. 16601
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>>16409
Bro what is this jargle? The limit of delta-t as it approaches 0 on 1? What is big gamma? What is delta? Pic related is literally you.




Anonymous 22/07/06(Wed)04:33 No. 14985 [Reply]
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The point of life is to grow up.
So why are humans so obsessed with childhood? And while being misopediac?

Why does society go at great lengths to patronize the youth for developing any sense of individuality?

Whenever I hear an adult say "I wish I was a kid again", what I see is "I suck at adulting and I hate responsibility".

Most people are plagued by childish desires but instead of reconciliation and growing into true adulthood, they'd rather pout and moan inwardly.

It's no wonder why midlife crisis is blending into quarter-life crisis.
It's no wonder why adolescence is being lengthened.
In fact, adolescence is artificial.

I'm dramatising, but I'm not joking when I think that there's an undercurrent of fear/contempt for maturation.

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Anonymous 25/04/21(Mon)00:00 No. 16392

This is because modern society is consumer centric and the modern philosophy of individualism exists to justify our economy based off mass rpdpuction and consumerism. The idea of idnvidiuality and finding yourself is mostly linked to finding what you like to consume, developing a personal brand, etc.

Modern adults are somewhat infantilized. There is no expectation of responsibility, but IMO what many miss is that responsibility is what makes you feel satisfied in adulthood.

So basically because of our economic structure, people are incentivized to stay in a perpetual adolescence.


If you want a clearer explanation im basing my opinion off of century of the self by Adam Curtis and liquid modernity by Zygmunt Bauman.


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Anonymous 25/04/21(Mon)00:08 No. 16393
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>>14985
>>14985
>adolescence is artificial
This is completely accurate, your instincts are right. Adolescence was invented in the 20th century to keep kids in school longer.
https://archive.org/details/TheParadoxOfExtendedChildhood-JohnTaylorGatto


Our modern society is literally structured around large corporations supported by swathes of borderline slave workers.

IMO without this education system we would follow our is tints more and learn the actual necessary skills of survival in the school of life. We wou have decentralized support networks where as we are currently at the opposite extreme of atomized individuals reliant on corporations for employment or government financial support. Humans naturally learn what is necessary to survive and naturally have creativity and ingenuity, but these kinds of independent people are not good consumers nor are they obedient workers.

We are all captive to this system and thus more or less children to the state, our new Mom.


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Anonymous 25/06/02(Mon)04:51 No. 16600

>>16391
There have been a lot of works that talk about it, but it's not talked about a lot.
People would rather talk about "muh woke" or "muh red pill".
Also:
>There is no expectation of responsibility, but IMO what many miss is that responsibility is what makes you feel satisfied in adulthood.

Wrong. Responsibility is expected.
But, the definition of responsibility is almost always reduced to procreation.

People think that child-rearing is the only form of responsibility. And they cannot even do that properly.



>>16393
Adolescence was created in the eighteenth century. But it was universalised by the twentieth century.
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Lolicon Ethics Anonymous 25/03/06(Thu)04:28 No. 16161 [Reply]
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I can't tell whether (anti-lolicon rhetoric) is a serious issue or the new moral outrage" isn't advocacy, promotion of, or posting of pedophilia and pedophilic content. It's asking a question about whether or not this seemingly first world issue facing chronically online anime communities is serious enough to warrant such extensive hate campaigns by communities like the Sharty and Kiwi Farms while we sleep on seemingly more serious issues like Du Pont diamond mining, child labor in Africa, Nestle corporation, Donald Trump taking over America, and of course western PROVEN nonces.

I grew up with gore cartoons like Happy Tree Friends and a bunch of shocking shit on sites like YTMND. Bug-eyed cartoon characters may actually have some psychological factors connected to reality, but I'm looking for evidence. The only scientific literature I've seen is from team 'p here. https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1s2PL7TcWJfxDGzKn1M7jnMLViOI6Dvj_ I'm asking for team anti-'p's side so I can become a more informed individual.

I don't support lolicon, but anti-lolicon communities seem to have philosophy where, "If you're not eagerly fer us, you're eagerly against us", and it lacks nuance. We should care about the basics of Maslow's hierarchy of needs more than supposed e-politics. If there's significant empirical evidence (or even a good enough common man argument) against lolicon, I want to KNOW why it's wrong, rather than be TOLD to agree.

If minors are being groomed by lolicons, it's probably because minors are using social media before the age of 18 (which they obviously should not be doing, yet society accepted for some reason). Why are we reverting to "think of the children!!1" days? Babysitting minors online should never be a part of your ethos. Keep your kids on Neopets and off of social media.

What do YOU think about lolicon and its ethics?


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Anonymous 25/05/01(Thu)16:21 No. 16448

>>16161
I do not personally care if you want to fap to cartoons. But it's obnoxious when people fill up /b/ with lolicon spam. Also the most loud people who are retardedly obsessed with anti-pedo discourse protest too much me thinks, and are more annoying than anyone else. There's a certain kind of retardation found in people who engage in moral panic hysterics like this and related subjects. Age gap discourse is another example that is very much the same. These people should have to watch their children be raped by a gamestop employee


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Anonymous 25/06/01(Sun)23:27 No. 16598

>>16161
I've always felt like it's a gayop by actual pedophiles to deflect themselves from criticism or investigation. IIRC there was an archive of people who were viciously anti-loli that were later revealed to be pedophiles/child molesters.


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Anonymous 25/06/02(Mon)04:44 No. 16599

>>16362
I think the real problem is the mental gymnastics people do about this

>>16448
People are addicted to indignation


>>16364
People who talk the most about freedom and equality are often the worst practitioners of them.




A mind that affects matter Anonymous 22/09/17(Sat)14:23 No. 15149 [Reply] [Last 50 posts]
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https://www.researchgate.net/publication/350862574_Psychophysical_interactions_with_a_double-slit_interference_pattern_Exploratory_evidence_of_a_causal_influence
>For the experimental data, the outcome supported a pattern of results predicted by a causal psychophysical effect

https://physicsessays.org/browse-journal-2/product/1424-4-dean-radin-leena-michel-and-arnaud-delorme-psychophysical-modulation-of-fringe-visibility-in-a-distant-double-slit-optical-system.html
>...these results were found to support von Neumann’s conclusion that the mind of the observer is an inextricable part of the measurement process.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/287506033_Reassessment_of_an_independent_verification_of_psychophysical_interactions_with_a_double-slit_interference_pattern
>Baer's independent analysis confirmed that the optical apparatus used in this experiment was indeed sensitive enough to provide evidence for a psychophysical effect.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/258707222_Consciousness_and_the_double-slit_interference_pattern_Six_experiments
>The results appear to be consistent with a consciousness-related interpretation of the quantum measurement problem.

Apparently there is a strong aversion within the scientific community regarding how consciousness tends to go beyond regular cause and effect when you measure its influence on its surroundings. The materialistic interpretation of reality fails to explain why these unusual occurences exist and why you can never see a physical link between these events.

Are you convinced that there is only matter in this universe and nothing else?
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Anonymous 25/04/16(Wed)22:06 No. 16355

>>15151
The concept of matter, as employed by the physicalist or materialist, is metaphysically incoherent because it posits as fundamental that which is never directly given: a mind-independent, extended substance existing outside of and prior to experience. But all that is ever given—indeed, all that can ever be given—is experience itself, which is irreducibly qualitative, structured, and intentional: every experience is an experience of something for a subject. To abstract from this experiential field a supposed “substrate” (matter) that exists independently of the very conditions that make its appearance intelligible is to commit the cardinal error of transcendental illusion: treating a postulated ground (the “real” physical world) as more certain than the immediate, lived reality of experience. The subject-object dichotomy is not optional or derivative—it is constitutive of experience as such. Objects do not exist “out there” in themselves; they exist as objects for a subject, within the horizon of a lived field of consciousness. The materialist attempts to describe a world with the subject abstracted away, but this abstraction is performed by a subject within experience. There is no neutral, subjectless “view from nowhere” by which the independent existence of matter could be affirmed. Moreover, there is—and could be—no empirical or rational proof of a mind-independent world, because such a proof would itself have to be mediated by experience, thus presupposing the very subjective framework it seeks to transcend. Hence, the doctrine of materialism is not only unjustified—it is internally incoherent, since it relies on the reality of experience to argue for a metaphysics that denies experience its foundational role. The only philosophically sound position is to begin with the undeniable fact of experience and its structures—and to recognize that any claim of a reality beyond experience is an unprovable, and ultimately unnecessary, metaphysical posit.


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Anonymous 25/04/17(Thu)14:23 No. 16361

>>16355
Matter coupled with energy, coupled with word creates reality. If you want to know the true secrets of the universe, it's not enough to do drugs, you have to analyze language together with energy. Linguistics plus physics - to arrive at tangible proof of extraordinary phenomena. Wisdom is not just parables, wisdom is being able to manipulate the physical reality. It is not machiavellianism, it is Platoism and Pythagorism.


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Anonymous 25/05/26(Mon)14:28 No. 16596

>>16293
One would expect to find some sort of tangible evidence for this cosmic force that moves entire planets but apparently there is none. Ironic.




There is no afterlife Anonymous 25/04/19(Sat)10:47 No. 16374 [Reply]
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The facts are simple after you see all the evidence afterlife can not exist after brain death there is nothing.

Everything else is word games.
1) Memories and personality are destroyed after the brain gets damaged
2) This happens from injuries to the brain or old age (alzheimer's)
3) Therefore destroying the brain destroys your mind.

Anyone who disagrees with this line of reasoning has no basis to conclude that fire exists or will happen after you light up wood or oil.
<Dude that is a logical fallacy correlation is not causation!

Yet you committed the argumentum ad logicam logical fallacy (nice self contradiction) yourself right now and you still accept that fire exists and will burn flammable things(nice self contradiction/schizophrenia).


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Anonymous 25/04/23(Wed)12:25 No. 16418
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Smoke a good dose of DMT and you'll see just how little we know


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Anonymous 25/04/24(Thu)04:08 No. 16423

Why is Peter Panagore's story unbelievable? I just woke up with new insight. He says in Heaven he pokes his head out from the field of Heaven and sees our universe and other universes above, below and beyond ours. He describes God as a big ball of light who wants to take him and who oozes pure love. Our souls are ethereal, a kind of ghost without solid form, and we are cast into these material bodies as a type of game or test for our souls.

Peter became an ordained Christian minister so he went to college after he had his near death. I believe it.


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Anonymous 25/04/25(Fri)16:38 No. 16433
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>>16418
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