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Lolicon Ethics Anonymous 25/03/06(Thu)04:28 No. 16161
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I can't tell whether (anti-lolicon rhetoric) is a serious issue or the new moral outrage" isn't advocacy, promotion of, or posting of pedophilia and pedophilic content. It's asking a question about whether or not this seemingly first world issue facing chronically online anime communities is serious enough to warrant such extensive hate campaigns by communities like the Sharty and Kiwi Farms while we sleep on seemingly more serious issues like Du Pont diamond mining, child labor in Africa, Nestle corporation, Donald Trump taking over America, and of course western PROVEN nonces.

I grew up with gore cartoons like Happy Tree Friends and a bunch of shocking shit on sites like YTMND. Bug-eyed cartoon characters may actually have some psychological factors connected to reality, but I'm looking for evidence. The only scientific literature I've seen is from team 'p here. https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1s2PL7TcWJfxDGzKn1M7jnMLViOI6Dvj_ I'm asking for team anti-'p's side so I can become a more informed individual.

I don't support lolicon, but anti-lolicon communities seem to have philosophy where, "If you're not eagerly fer us, you're eagerly against us", and it lacks nuance. We should care about the basics of Maslow's hierarchy of needs more than supposed e-politics. If there's significant empirical evidence (or even a good enough common man argument) against lolicon, I want to KNOW why it's wrong, rather than be TOLD to agree.

If minors are being groomed by lolicons, it's probably because minors are using social media before the age of 18 (which they obviously should not be doing, yet society accepted for some reason). Why are we reverting to "think of the children!!1" days? Babysitting minors online should never be a part of your ethos. Keep your kids on Neopets and off of social media.

What do YOU think about lolicon and its ethics?


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Anonymous 25/03/06(Thu)08:19 No. 16163

Most of the anti Loli crowd are the same people who watch gore and edgy imageboard meme videos and whatever.

They also like to brag about being open minded when it comes to sex despite being the most vanilla type of person.

>If minors are being groomed by lolicons, it's probably because minors are using social media before the age of 18 (which they obviously should not be doing, yet society accepted for some reason). Why are we reverting to "think of the children!!1" days? Babysitting minors online should never be a part of your ethos. Keep your kids on Neopets and off of social media.

Social media is all ages tho.
Mainly twelve and up
Social media isn't the problem.
It's not even the kids or parents.
It's just the way society morally infantilises the youth
Most cases of grooming were greenlit on the minors end.
They knew what they were doing.


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Anonymous 25/03/06(Thu)08:20 No. 16164

Your stance on social media is part of the problem over loli phobia.

Social media isn't automatically adult.
Kids have used social media from the very beginning.


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Anonymous 25/03/16(Sun)17:58 No. 16230

You're not really asking any specific question, just stating an opinion. I won't get into the benefits of internet culture on a young mind, but were you going somewhere with the other stuff or that's it and no specific questions either?


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Anonymous 25/03/22(Sat)13:01 No. 16245

>>16161
I think much of it is a divide & conquer gayop, originating from the tradcon+terf alliance. Both want productive men enslaved to their interests, both want do-nothing bureaucrat/administrative jobs, so they work together.

The 2016 to 2025 era was an awakening of these two disparate groups as factions with mutual interests, similar to the Marxist concept of class awareness among the various classes in his theory crafting.

Sites with large numbers of women and gossipy fags are the epicenter for organizing and planning anti-loli crusades, largely done via doxing. As an aside, any site built around stereotypically female/fag habits (gossip, clothes, hot guys, gooner literature, etc) are heavily infested by anti-male and anti-loli types.

The best counter is to agree and amplify.

>Create fake honeypot sites for anti-loli types to communicate, wait for them to link to other sites in private messages, then dox them.
>Infiltrate these sites (use fucking opsec) and accuse more and more people of being pedophiles, to make their message tedious and unhinged by way of association with tedious and unhinged posters. You could automate this with AI.
>Post on twitter, bluesky, tumble, and other terminally online sites in the same tedious, unhinged, and obsessively anti-loli & anti-male manner.
>Try to popularize lolicon-hunting among retards like niggers, streamers, etc. Their incompetence and hypocrisy will weaken the entire thing by association.
>Accuse anyone who is remotely associated with children of being lolicons. Especially famous ecelebs, youtubers, and streamers. If everyone is accused of being one, then the accusation is easier to dismiss.
>False flag radfems you know IRL with fake accounts featuring their name, username, avatar, etc, on loli sites. The goal here is to sicc retards on our enemies.


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Anonymous 25/03/23(Sun)00:44 No. 16246

>>16245
Lol


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Anonymous 25/04/07(Mon)03:23 No. 16308

>>16245
Alot of misogynistic macho male sites are also anti Loli.
Look at LeftyPol


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Anonymous 25/04/07(Mon)06:09 No. 16309

>>16308
Whoever they are, you can shit up the discourse by finding new ways to accuse other users of being pedophiles.


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Anonymous 25/04/07(Mon)13:44 No. 16312

Watch this

https://youtu.be/znPJZK1lwaY


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Anonymous 25/04/17(Thu)15:07 No. 16362

>>16161

Aside from the moral-grandstanding people do with it, the issue has always been that the proposal from both sides is to focus on selective circumstantial or anecdotal evidence to support or deny loli/shota.

Even worse is their endless ping-pong arguments about body physiology.


Best argument to defuse the entire thing is to ask:

If in the future we have reverse-age technology to the point where we can make you 9yo again yet you retain your adult-minded brain (as best as it can be done), should we treat you like an adult or as a child?

Since if they aren't 70 iq they'll quickly realize that you can't treat them as either, they are their own unique entity, this is because we are forced to recon with the fact that the mental capability is greater yet the body isn't.

Thus effectively the real issue is the exploitation of a person's (developing) mental state.

As such I don't think loli/shota is a big deal but I do think that people that exploit adults with mental issues are doing the equivalent of exploiting children.


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Anonymous 25/04/17(Thu)19:59 No. 16364

>>16362
Well then war should be illegal because of the crap they sell to 18-24 y/o niggers. Love your country, make jews rich or whatever is the new goyslop.


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Anonymous 25/05/01(Thu)16:21 No. 16448

>>16161
I do not personally care if you want to fap to cartoons. But it's obnoxious when people fill up /b/ with lolicon spam. Also the most loud people who are retardedly obsessed with anti-pedo discourse protest too much me thinks, and are more annoying than anyone else. There's a certain kind of retardation found in people who engage in moral panic hysterics like this and related subjects. Age gap discourse is another example that is very much the same. These people should have to watch their children be raped by a gamestop employee


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Anonymous 25/06/01(Sun)23:27 No. 16598

>>16161
I've always felt like it's a gayop by actual pedophiles to deflect themselves from criticism or investigation. IIRC there was an archive of people who were viciously anti-loli that were later revealed to be pedophiles/child molesters.


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Anonymous 25/06/02(Mon)04:44 No. 16599

>>16362
I think the real problem is the mental gymnastics people do about this

>>16448
People are addicted to indignation


>>16364
People who talk the most about freedom and equality are often the worst practitioners of them.



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