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Post-grad existential crisis workshop Modern Mom 21/08/09(Mon)15:13 No. 3537
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I'm a musician going into my last year of grad school. Long story short, my parents have paid for everything up until this point and aggressively kept me from making my own money. Now they've let me know that they can't support me once I've graduated, and that my options are to either come home and work from there or come up with something on my own.

I'd actually kill myself if I was stuck at home, not to mention that home is hours away from any major city and any serious players that I'd want to work with. The last time we spoke, I told my parents that I plan to move to Philadelphia instead of coming home. It took a lot of butting heads, and they were pretty disparaging of the idea, but they finally accepted it and told me to come up with a plan of action.

I've been seriously stressing for the past few days, but then I remembered those crafty /jew/s whose posts I read when I was younger. If any of you veterans are still around, I'd love some help in workshopping a strategy. Basically, the objective is moving into Philly affordably and keeping myself afloat long enough to start putting together income in my actual line of work. Below are a few extremely general points, if you guys have some more specific ideas of options for each of these I'd be very appreciative.


THE PLAN:
>Move to Philadelphia
I've only started looking into available apartments/townhouses/houses in the area, but I know I'll need something that's under 1000 per month. If I can find something in the 700-900 range, I doubt that even a poor shmuck like me can fuck it up. Preference will be taken toward townhouses or houses, I don't think an apartment in that price range will have enough space for my instrument and the rest of my life.

>Get a job
This is where I could use a lot of advice. What kinds of "real" jobs could keep someone alive in that range of rent? I'm sure whatever I'm renting will be more expensive than that base number too, once utilities come into play. Ideally this would be some kind of day-oriented job with relatively flexible hours, so that I could still be free for evening/night rehearsals, jams, gigs etc. I'm very interested in bike delivery, although I know it'd be miserable with Philly's shitty roads. Manual labor also seems interesting, but I don't know what the pay's like.

>Hustle
With an income that will let me stay alive taken care of, this is the easier part. Connecting with other musicians in the city, cutting people at jams, putting together some semblance of social media, etc. etc. I'm much more familiar with this side of life, and with no school and the right job I should be able to get into some regular playing and/or teaching gigs within a few months of hustling.

>????
If there's any other advice that can be given, I'd love to hear it. Literally anything to do with making/saving money in a city, or advice specific to Philadelphia if any of you have experience there.

>PROFIT
The endgame is for my music money to become substantial enough to make up the majority of my income, supplemented by whatever smaller day gigs I need to take. Once I hit that point, I can focus on expanding my money through stonks/crypto/whatever you guys are digging into these days.

Thanks in advance for anyone willing to help me think through this in more detail. In a year's time, I'd love for this thread to end up as another of those weird success stories that I remember this board for.


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BalanceB 22/10/15(Sat)11:25 No. 3742

Did you manage to do that? I can tell you that for me, developing my own business turned out to be a great solution, I just had some problems with the business idea. But thanks to articles like https://apiko.com/blog/corporate-wellness-apps/, it wasn't even hard for me to boost my business and make my workflow even more effective.


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Modern Mom 22/10/20(Thu)14:16 No. 3744

When I was at university, I always dreamed of owning my own business and not being dependent on anyone, and it's cool that now that I finally graduated, I have a lot of opportunities. Now I have only a small startup, but I try to develop, read various articles like https://www.pandadoc.com/blog/proposify-vs-docusign/ to keep abreast of new technologies and immediately achieve an optimized and efficient operation of the company.


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Modern Mom 22/12/12(Mon)16:12 No. 3764

I have always been interested in the topic of application development and if this is an important topic for you as well as for me, then you must know about alternatives for business. If you want to save time and money on the implementation of the application, then read more about mvp development on https://www.erised.io/ . It will be more effective for you.


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Modern Mom 23/02/25(Sat)10:45 No. 3794
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Good luck, dude.


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Modern Mom 23/02/26(Sun)13:23 No. 3796

>>3794
It's pretty depressing that in like two years this is the only non-bot reply OP received.


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Modern Mom 25/11/20(Thu)15:34 No. 4543
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Musician OP here like 4 years later. Poking around the site on a whim I remembered that I had made this post.

NONE of this played out like my retarded ass thought. I went to a completely different city, paid 1.5X as much for rent. On the upside my music career has been exponentially more successful than it ever would have been in Philly. Still broke as shit but I've gotten worlds more experience in being a /jew/, actually getting paid real amounts of money for my art and holding down several side hustles. Figured I'd drop off this happy ending to this thread since the board's dead as fuck anyway.

I'd like to thank all three spam bots for their relevant and extremely useful input, and the guy who posted that delicious looking skillet.

While I'm at it, maybe we should repurpose this thread as a dumb starving artist general. If you happen across this sometime in the next 5 years and you're some retarded youth trying to make money in the arts, post about it.


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Modern Mom 26/01/02(Fri)19:45 No. 4576

>>4543
Well hey, happy ending I guess, other than the housing costs. Glad you pulled through.


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Modern Mom 26/03/02(Mon)18:33 No. 4635

>>4543

I'm the retarded youth, got the same plan as you had, except not in Philly. One thing is I'm thinking that music is a bad way to make a living (well no shit) but I mean cause I don't want to spend my entire life on tour. Even then, it seems preferable to most other "careers" that people do (especially in tech (>.0). But I'm glad you seem to be having a pretty good time. I definitely have to do music, so I guess I'll just see how it goes. I still need to move though.


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Modern Mom 26/03/02(Mon)18:34 No. 4636

>>4635

That (>.0) wasn't supposed to be a winky face, more like eating a rotten lime face


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Modern Mom 26/03/02(Mon)19:31 No. 4637

>>4635
My idea is to expect zero money from it and just do whatever I want with music in my free time. Like really expect zero money. I've seen so many absolute geniuses pretty much completely ignored by the public that I expect absolutely nothing at this point, it would be amazing if I could become one of the geniuses, but even that is not guaranteed yet. Let alone the money. But you do you bro.

Plus, since there's no financial upside anyway (at least for the kind of stuff that I would pursue), I really am not willing to do even an iota of compromise in terms of what I actually want to do vs what would be the least bit commercially successful.


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Modern Mom 26/03/02(Mon)20:57 No. 4638

>>4637
in fact that's exactly how I'm feeling, the only thing in the back of my mind is the fear that that kind of attitude will just prevent me from doing as much as I would like, rather than pushing me to do more in another area of my life.
But also I don't think the general public really exists, so I would be very happy to do good work with a small group of people, doing what we find valuable.
The only difference between that and being hyper famous is how many awful tabloid sites write about you. + you won't have to hang out with people from hollywood.
Good luck out there


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Modern Mom 26/03/02(Mon)21:45 No. 4639

>>4638
You too, Godspeed


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Modern Mom 26/03/15(Sun)15:44 No. 4650
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>>4635
OP blowing through again. If I can offer you any advice at all:

If you play the right kinds of music and/or can teach, there are a lot of ways to make some money in music other than specifically touring. Really dig into what's going on in the city you're moving to, see what kinds of music gets booked where, both in public venues and for private events. I have no clue what sort of musician you are but if your instrument has a place in any kind of social/event setting and you're not a total asshole, you can find a niche in your city as a working musician and at least make enough to keep surviving.

>I really am not willing to do even an iota of compromise in terms of what I actually want to do vs what would be the least bit commercially successful.
The faster you smash this mindset into tiny pieces with a hammer, the better. I have a friend from grad school who's really stuck to this in the years since we graduated, and he's hands-down doing the worst now out of any of my closest school friends. Me and another one of my friends who ended up in the same city have done very alright so far because we both genuinely enjoy being chameleons and can play a lot of different kinds of more "commercial" music on top of what we're more specialized in.

I really can't stress that enough, actually. I think that is one of the biggest hurdles for young retards to get over, and the reason why X or Y musician can be a total genius and still be stuck working in a Starbucks. Playing other kinds of music besides whatever it is you personally like the most is *not* some great sacrifice of your artistic integrity, it just makes you more well-rounded, busier and less poor. Being able to make music that actually gets you paid gives you the financial freedom to do your own weirder projects for less money/for free.

I think the way college is set up, it bakes this thought into our heads that if we're not doing THE thing--whatever one specific thing we've decided we identify with--we've failed or compromised or sold out, or something. But if you can find even a fraction of the personal enjoyment you have in your own music in some more "commercially successful" kinds of it, you'll be so much better off.

This is heavily biased by my own experiences going through all this so far, though. I do also have plenty of peers who are big into avant garde stuff that just work regular jobs and do only their own music, on their own time, for not much money. That is also a very valid way to go about it, if you REALLY don't want to do anything besides your own specific work. My one friend from school who has been living like that for a while seems pretty close to killing himself though, so take that as you will.

Post again when you've moved and figured some shit out, fingers crossed for you.



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