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>>844749
Bro, I'm more relaxed than you'll ever be in all likelihood.
1. Well, I think just like the IQ curves between men and women I think most things track like that (the disparity at the right end of the bell curve is staggering - 3x, 5x or even 8x, 15x at the extreme right end, trust me, I would MUCH rather it was 50/50)
Almost anything you could think of except maybe good and bad looks, because IMO you actually find more women at the extremes. But I know that in general women think other women are very beautiful and most men are hideous whereas men tend to be a bit more objective about both men's beauty and women's beauty. Could be the mental games women play (sisterhood yadda yadda perhaps to the point of believing their own lies..)(women tend to lie to themselves more in general which I won't get into the reasons why, but that's just the truth), could be the genuine disdain many feel towards men and that actually altering the "pleasantness" or lack thereof of how others appear. Yeah women tend to look more beautiful for example when you are genuinely enamored by one and if you find out how stupid or untrustworthy she is it can knock her down a notch or two IN THE PURELY AESTHETIC realm too. At least IME.
Then I guess you have cultural and societal issues relating to the survival mechanisms and the fact that women survive through social navigation whereas men survive through matter navigation as a general rule. And then in the current climate their strategy punishes them disproportionately, because they would feel much less safe than a man disassociating from the mainframe OF ANY SORT and carving their own path. Which CAN afford a man MUCH more peace and comfort in being alone for the most part. So although everyone has very poor mental health now, women even more so, but more of the mass psychosis variety unfortunately, not the "I am cool and awesome and this world is too cruel and full of lies for me to handle" variety. Again because they perceive a lack of safety in not belonging TO AT LEAST SOME group or culture or counter culture or whatever AND THEY ALLLLL SUCKK.
Now I don't know if other incels think like this or if it's even fair calling myself an incel (I'm more like a femcel except less upity and less performative) but personally I don't even give a fuck about a girl unless she is severely mentally ill, because anyone adjusted to society almost makes me want to vomit as a first reaction or is profoundly uninteresting and most likely low (read average) IQ. Unless she is extremely beautiful, but even in that case it is a huge detractor. because it makes me think that she is most likely going to be extremely boring. I was always attracted to suicidal girls thus. Edgy, non-boring and just misfits and mental cases of various sorts, artistic especially, because art communies are the only communities really left worth paying any attention to. This forum is an art community even if it doesn't seem so on the surface. There's a little bit of intellectualism, but essentially this is a humor and literature site, even if the literature is like very short posts or paragraphs, I would say we are at the cutting edge of what literature is and can be and sometimes that is supplemented with images and so be it. It's more like covert rather than overt intellectualism, because at the edge of literature you cannot really avoid intellectualism even if you wanted to.. Anyway, going back to the mental illnesses, unfortunately a lot of that nowadays is very performative (they are NOT deep individuals and they are NOT outside the mainframe and they DO NOT have it tough as nails) so even that is hardly any signal in the noise anymore. Unless he's a young bloke with no experience and will fall for everything at face value. But alt cultures can be cute and cool aesthetically if done right. Others will recoil from that immediately, but an open-minded bro won't and will appreciate it for what it is - AESTHETICS.
Can't speak for majority of incels (I think a good portion of them are bitter and I would avoid that at all costs)(both men and women), because I hardly talk with anyone outside of this place and I would say at least 10% of users here have girlfriends, wives or even kids.
So as for my general opinion... I think they're just people. And they do have some tendencies. Since I don't really interact with anyone in the middle of the bell curve it means that for me at least if a person is a woman, other than the romantic relevance, any other kind of relevance (as a mostly hetero man) is going to be much lower on average simply because of the bell curve thing and the fact that I don't interact with 99% of people because it's extremely uninteresting. And NO I don't mean just the IQ. Any kind of character trait that you can think of I think the bell curve distribution is very much like that. So all the interesting or outside of the norm people are usually men. Everyone else I feel like isn't even worth talking to. I still interact with women, I just know that there's less chance of making a long-term bond that is of relevance with them unless we include the romantic bonds.. But that's a whole nother big can of worms that I can get into but I guess start by reading what I already wrote.
But the gist of it is that (as far as the romantic stuff goes) if I cannot groom her, and you cannot really do that after the major neuroplasticity window which lasts up to what? $25 Max, my body itself is disinterested, because I already know what to expect mentality wise and that just sucks out all the sexual interest out of me. I actually find women up to around 39 physically hot potentially (DESPITE their shorter reproductive timespan and the fact that people age far from gracefully) and even very hot in extremely rare cases, but most if that happened in my youth when I didn't actually KNOW any of them on a real personal basis. Now I know that without big and very positive male influences it's a complete tragedy what kind of a person develops there in damn near every case. Because I have come to know many women. And I grew up with a mom and a sister. And I love them, but I know how adult women are. Unless her education and introduction to life and the world can be ME instead of school, uni and all the dumb people around her, she's just never going to be someone I'd be willing to spend my life (or just any of my time tbh) with - even if that means the end of my bloodline. Well ofc one could knock her up and scram, but BIOLOGICALLY let alone intelectually that is just not my style (had a tough childhood, don't want to pass that on...). I am basically from the oldest white genepool in europe which at least in my case means extreme end of the hyper-K-selection rather than hyper-r-selection and I can't help it.
But yeah, in general I think women are awesome, sweet, innocent, kind, nurturing, amazing and all those awesome feminine traits, but I also think just like men being strong, calm, wanting to provide and protect, chart a course, explore etc those qualities are very easily lost and or distorted if abused. And I'd argue the feminine ones ARE EVEN EASIER to be abused and unfortunately lost... The plight of modern women is horrible. Men too, but, men have themselves to fall back on, women mostly fall back on society and that's a nightmare I wouldn't wish upon my worst enemy. I blame this all on men, not on women BTW, but the women are the ones that suffer the brunt of it... It's very sad. That's why I said you're very lucky to have a good father. I'd say even luckier than the girls that get an amazing 1st or second boyfriend unless they end up staying with them and having children with them, cause 1. YOU GREW UP WITH HIM and 2. even when he dies your mental map of the world is completely altered when you walk around knowing you have that support from the masculine. And it's just a much more long term thing usually as compared to a boyfriend who's on top of that usually your age so much more confused and less masculine to begin with. Which means you have to be more masculine more often in the relationship, which may or may not be very natural depending on the individual, but in general due to HUGE GLOBAL abandonment of women by men (ON SO MANY LEVELS) - women have to serve a much more masculine role in their own lives than maybe what they'd actually prefer or would feel natural to. God bless us all. I'm just lwk waiting for the opportunity to strike now. EVEN men nowadays - VERY FEW CAN BE TRUSTED and men are more solid and trustworthy as a rule to begin with (again because of the bell curves situation)
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