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Anonymous 26/05/14(Thu)18:54 No. 844521
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Idk if this belongs on /b/, but here it is

It's become clear to most of us that the societal collapse we've been anticipating has arrived. Some of us expected it to be a slow decline, while others less in-the-know have imagined immediate, shit-hitting-the-fan scenarios. Now, I'm not going to claim that some immediate, world-changing event could not suddenly happen, but I think we have a ways to go before someone gets desperate enough to cause one.

As of right now, people are reaching their breaking point, and it's becoming more and more common. People who were once part of the Fight for 15 protests are realizing how good they had it back then. Groceries have more than doubled. Fuel has more than doubled. The cost of homes, driven by boomer economics which treat them as an investment rather than a commodity that is needed by all, well, I've been in a position to buy a home twice now and had it slip from my grasp by rising cost. And rent has gone through the roof, even for in many cases, rentals where the roof is hardly even extant.

There is only so much that people are willing to tolerate. And while some few go on destructive sprees, I'm not predicting that it will end in revolt. People are too complacent and self-centered to organize on any scale of significance, and I honestly cannot say if that is because of decades of psyops, the unintended consequences of the internet, or both. In fact, I would claim that the majority, if not the entirety of the system is going to come down simply because so many people will be priced out of participating that there will not be enough to prop it up anymore. We are already seeing this as the boomers are beginning to die, and I would be willing to believe that the housing market, as well as other markets, are currently being artificially propped up by billionaires who are buying up any and all excess so that demand stays constant, because they have enough money to do so and they stand to benefit from the status quo being maintained. Another example of this is the recession we're clearly in, but which is not being treated as one because 7 billionaire tech companies are playing hot potato with exorbitant amounts of money, swapping it between each other to build countless surveillance centers.

However, this only puts off the issue, because the rich are propped up by the millions who buy their products and services, and these rich get to be rich because the rest of the people accept their money as valuable. I am beginning to see signs that this structure is losing cohesion as people are starting to use phrases like "the 1% lives in a different economy than you, a different life and a different universe."

It has become apparent that the richest companies in the country and the property they own in Congress do not understand or realize how bad it is that crop yields are down, what that means for us, what fuel prices mean to us, and it's resulting in not only mismanagement of the situation, but total wanton disregard for it. Because when you give your child a dollar, they treat it like it is a precious amount of money, checking their pockets constantly to make sure it doesn't fall out, and they think a hundred bucks is an exorbitant amount of money. How do you think they feel about $4.49 a gallon, really?

People cannot afford to buy new cars to the extent that we now have the phrase "vintage car premium" because people are gravitating towards the famously reliable older models. It's why you can't find an old Datsun truck for $500 anymore. And for housing, are turning to things like Tuff-Shed and DIY projects built on flatbed trailers, if they're wealthy enough. For those who are so lazy that they only clock 70 hours a week, they don't need a bed anyway because they never sleep, so they end up just living in their car.

Kids at school used to be made fun of because they lived in a double-wide mobile home. For many, that is now a dream. A dream they've given up on.

Is it really so surprising that people have turned to fanatical ideas like fascism? They know the boomers hate it, and they know the boomers hate them. And so for many it stands to reason that they should embrace this, because as they say, the enemy of your enemy is your friend. And further, they have grown up in a world that is hopelessly, pointlessly cruel to them. The American dream was supposed to be about something, something good at least, but it's more like getting fucked in a dungeon with the promise that if you don't resist, they'll consider loosening the handcuffs so you can stop bleeding.

I am not an extremist, and have no plans other than to continue working and keep trying to improve my life. There are good things in this world, in spite of how bleak it's getting, and I think people need to remind themselves of that more often to prevent themselves from going and doing extreme and irrational things. It is very apparent to many of us that the status quo is too rotten to save anyway, and so it would simply be pointless to take any brash action, finding it better to bide our time and wait things out. As for why people take violent and extremist action, as far as I can imagine it must be for revenge, for an individual who has completely and totally lost hope.

I expect, as any reasonable man would, that things are eventually going to improve. Personally, I think it more likely that the current status quo will completely disintegrate, after which we will have a window of time to prevent bad actors from seizing power again, and within this we will be able to genuinely improve the world and our lives. Until then, there isn't much of a point to fighting. It is more logical to prepare, not by stockpiling per sé, moreso by building community ties and developing plans so that this community will be able to be self-sustaining when the time comes.

I guess what I am looking for here is input so that I can figure out a realistic timeline. Part of me wants Nostradamus to come in and tell me the future, I guess.


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Anonymous 26/05/14(Thu)19:14 No. 844522
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>>844521
learn to summarize nigger


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Anonymous 26/05/14(Thu)19:21 No. 844523

>>844522
I've read a few paragraphs, it seems he's talking about politics and economics and some cultural and generational issues.

He says he's not going to do anything radical, but hopes for the best or something like that.


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Anonymous 26/05/14(Thu)21:37 No. 844524

I honestly have no idea what this guy is talking about. Our civilization is peaking. Never in the history of the human race have we ever had more free time to pursue whatever we wanted. There is more wealth, prosperity, charity, technology, access to good food and clean water and great healthcare than ever before. We aren't at war. I mean jeeze. I don't doubt down the line someone is going to have to pay for much of how great we have it but for now, we are on cloud nine.


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Anonymous 26/05/14(Thu)21:40 No. 844525

>>844522

or simply he's the generation that was praised for long speeches. Not everything is like today with 1 page homework. In the old days 10 pages was the minimum and you got a gold star for it.

In a way it means this conflict 'what's with the long speech' couldn't be prevented.


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Anonymous 26/05/14(Thu)21:41 No. 844526

>>844521

70 hours a week

so your life is just work then, fantastic


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Anonymous 26/05/14(Thu)21:43 No. 844527

>>844521

the main breakdown is there's no words to help anybody anymore

in any situation that's difficult, the answer is to run off

it's always the answer today

it's a pity words are useless today, but that's what happened


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Anonymous 26/05/14(Thu)22:06 No. 844533

if everythings shit

i would think don't bother at all not work harder, for a dead planet with zero hope

my master plan is to rebuild the broken monasteries and forget how this world fell down, did you know they didn't always build them is rubbish places either, one im thinking of rebuilding has the best natural vistas you could ever imagine in your wildest dreams, i thought that's sneaky, if you had that view, you could sit praying, knowing you've got a lot more than anybody else ever will, it's just sneaky


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Anonymous 26/05/14(Thu)22:14 No. 844534

tf you talking about. Things are great now.


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Anonymous 26/05/14(Thu)23:13 No. 844535

>>844533
Christian monastery? I'm not going to ruin your plans, but where is this? I fucking love great vistas.


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Anonymous 26/05/15(Fri)04:43 No. 844541

>>844522
Learn to kill yourself retard


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Anonymous 26/05/15(Fri)04:45 No. 844542

>>844526
Have you ever heard of the idea of things not being all about you?


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Anonymous 26/05/15(Fri)04:50 No. 844543

>>844524
>Peaking

Our civilization was peaking 40 years ago when you could pump gas and go inside to pay for it after.

Trust is breaking down, people are breaking down, regular violent crime is on a decline but mass violence is on an incline. Homeownership is the lowest it's ever been and keeps sinking, more people are living paycheck to paycheck than ever. Public utilities are getting worse, the water is getting worse and more scarce. Do you live in fairy world? Do you not see what is in front of you?


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Anonymous 26/05/15(Fri)04:55 No. 844544
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>>844521

They sell acid at that fast food chain?
Weird.


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Anonymous 26/05/16(Sat)17:16 No. 844567
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You're right. This is a load of bullshit and it's only a matter of time before people do something about it.
It's going to keep getting worse until then.


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Anonymous 26/05/16(Sat)18:58 No. 844568

>>844522
Funny you would call someone that when you demanded simplification like a nigger.


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Anonymous 26/05/16(Sat)22:25 No. 844570

>the boomers
What does that mean in your vocabulary? Everyone older than 30? Older than 21? It varies so wildly from one permanently butthurt E-activist to another that I just have to ask.


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Anonymous 26/05/17(Sun)03:52 No. 844572
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I just learned stoicism and taught myself that everything is ultimately ephemeral. My ideology hasn't change, much, but I too have come to accept that the end is neigh. The industrial proletariat of the early 20th century was the only point in history, to this point, that was capable of something....more....and humanity failed. We failed the great filter, but, that's ok.

Nothing really matters, anyways.


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Anonymous 26/05/17(Sun)03:53 No. 844573

>>844522
>Everything should be like twitter.
Please fucking kill yourself as soon as possible.


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Anonymous 26/05/17(Sun)04:19 No. 844574

>>844526
How do you think all those plant workers and mill workers stay racking up so much cash? The amount you get paid is far better than your average walmart job, but, guess what the real, real money, comes from over time. In the last month and a half I have had about 3 days off. but I need the money to have a life even close to worth living. It's basically a higher standard of living version of the Victorian era where workers had to work 20 even 24 hour work days.


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Anonymous 26/05/17(Sun)12:22 No. 844583

>>844570
The boomers, as in, the boomers who decided that shareholder value is worth more than stability, human life, quality of life, and literally everything else. The ones who voted for what started all this.


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Anonymous 26/05/17(Sun)12:23 No. 844584

>>844573
Bump


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Anonymous 26/05/17(Sun)13:39 No. 844586
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In all honesty I think we have been in a length of prosperity too long. The fact such asinine and insignificant issues come up as topics on the news means we really don't have anything to discuss. Things are too good. We need a new war or a plague or something that can really unite people once again so that we can stop talking about whether kids in elementary school should be allowed to have litter boxes to shit in. We are becoming too detached from reality and filling our minds with things that don't matter. I have a distaste for liberals so much. They bring this stuff up faster than conservatives would. So let's go to war. 90% sure this is what the generation needs. Total. War. Not conflict...


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Anonymous 26/05/17(Sun)13:55 No. 844588

>>844586

NON - Total War

I don't like Boyd, who sang on the old YouTube video from a live gig in Japan
Though that is/was my favourite version of it
I can't find it anymore :(


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Anonymous 26/05/17(Sun)14:19 No. 844589

>>844572
sounds more like nihilism.


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Anonymous 26/05/17(Sun)21:41 No. 844601

>>844583
>The boomers, as in, the boomers who decided that shareholder value is worth more than stability, human life, quality of life, and literally everything else.
So like Musk, Thiel and that other "dark enlightenment" nutjob, Yarvin or something? Pretty sure neither are from the baby boomer generation. Why not call them sociopathic narcissists or anything else that isn't just blatantly wrong instead?


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Anonymous 26/05/17(Sun)21:41 No. 844602

>>844589
Here's the uncomfortable truth:
The universe is nihilistic.
Regardless of what you believe, regardless of any delusions you may feed yourself for comfort the universe is totally indifferent to you. Best case we are cosmically immortal (or worse I guess depending on your out look) or we just are here and gone forever.

You can accept this reality, though, and not cope with religion, drugs, consumerism, etc etc. Like, you don't have to live a bleak existence because the universe doesn't care.


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Anonymous 26/05/17(Sun)21:48 No. 844603

>>844586
I like the idea, but let's see if we can handle just basic stuff for starters. And let's make sure we go the right war. You know, people say choose your battles, perhaps it's even more important to choose your war. Because there are many things you can go to war with. If you like the idea of war in the first place of course.

And even if you do, make sure you apply some respect if possible, not everyone is into that and not everyone is warlike. It's in dangerous business. For anyone to get involved in. Those that take up the sword shall perish by the sword.

Go to battle with your ability to creatively express


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Anonymous 26/05/19(Tue)12:55 No. 844644

>>844586
Our age of prosperity is ending. We're in undiscovered country right now, primarily because if the existence of fiat currency.

The last economic collapse was due to the silver standard, that being the demand for silver outpaced supply. World War 2 killed so many people that the demand came down enough for the currency to stabilize, ending the depression. Once the boomers really came into the market, the silver standard was abandoned so that it wouldn't once again destabilize.

We're in a position now that infinity money can be printed, and so the scarcity that inevitably would keep society in check, usually destructively, is gone. What it has been replaced with is something we still don't fully understand the consequences of.

Another great big war isn't going to knock us back into place like it did the last time. All it'll do is make things more miserable and accelerate us toward a catastrophe unknown and unparalleled. An economic collapse, perhaps? A total breakdown in trust and value? Probably inevitably. The truth is that money is now limited only by perception, and a great reset that kills tens of millions isn't going to affect that in any way, shape, or form.


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Anonymous 26/05/19(Tue)13:33 No. 844645

>>844644
Agree on a lot. Except I'm ahead of the curve.


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Anonymous 26/05/19(Tue)23:07 No. 844650

>>844645
If he's right you're not ahead, you're just a fatter target.
>b-but mah innawoods this and that
You know about that ghouls thing from Africa? Will be same wherever you are, eventually. If that anon is right.
>b-but muh guns
Ammo runs out, sleep is needed, disease gets to anyone eventually. No matter how many men you really can trust you have with you, there will eventually be more ghouls over the fence.

But I do believe that he's mostly wrong. He is using the old kind of human for his extrapolations, as do many on the smarter side of average (doesn't necessarily mean much smarter, mind you). Modern human is somewhat different in its vast majority and these masses will absolutely tolerate all kinds of shit for much longer. Likely until their eyesight fades and their last breath goes out.


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Anonymous 26/05/19(Tue)23:19 No. 844651

>>844650
I wonder when society is going to wake up and start deleting niggers on a mass scale.

And by the way, I'm not a prepper, it's just that I came to those conclusions that he posited - like maybe 10 years ago. Now I'm much more radical, I won't go into that not to bore you. But it's good. Nature is healing. People are starting to finally catch on. Even if they're only catching on only to what I thought like a decade ago. I see more now.

And yet normies still exist side-by-side with us like it's the '90s or early 2000s.. which is perhaps the most mind-blowing thing of them all. I wonder how long they're going to last. Or if it's like you say, until the last breath is drawn out of them. Perhaps. Some people really are vitally attached to their blindness. God bless them and God bless everyone.


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Anonymous 26/05/20(Wed)02:14 No. 844652

>>844651
You're a nigger to me. Therefore, you should be deleted.


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Anonymous 26/05/20(Wed)09:41 No. 844655
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>>844652
No, I totally get it. I'm not a nigger fyi, but your sentiment is 100% justified.


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Anonymous 26/05/21(Thu)10:19 No. 844661
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>>844650
What's the African ghoul thing?



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