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>>841096

Seeming chronology issue aside, nazis (as fascists are keen to do) cherry pick philosophical/culture ideas/ideals that best suit/legitimize their foray into what is essentially mafia rule (a single boss with family/cronies who are free to pilfer and provide protection rackets to those who don't threaten their crime operation)... WHICH dawg, is precisely what china is. They're more filthy/malicious capitalist than the americans (which is saying something), some fucking soviet shtick doesn't mean dey communist/socialist. Hm, to america's credit, they've been, hitherto, more liberty-minded at least.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHM1Zi8YwjI

also bro's philosophy is more than 'ubermensch' and, in regards to the nazi association, he was equally critical of jewish and christian exploitation and ignorance, hence his vilification, usually in the form of him underpinning nazi (national socialist) "thought" or espousing nihilism when umactually he was pointing out the fundamental nihilism inherent in aforementioned theological systems of thought. Indeed, "The Antichrist" is something of a bulwark against 'fascist' demagogues, maybe a tautology.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Nietzsche

>>841097

is an aluminum hat required for this rabbit hole? the denouement is the rothchilds ain't it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFF8bubMc40

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>>841048
also, more semantic dilettantism than a consideration or worth. criticism of thing need not require denouncement of thing.

bonus thing: japanese mantis shrimp, creepy yet delectable, supposedly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh0kSWg4xu4

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>>841099
>>841099
>is an aluminum hat required for this rabbit hole?
No, just common sense and ability to admit to yourself that you don't know what you don't know. Less assumptions, more observation. I understand that you're trying to be edgy, but at the end of the day, if you believe you're bullshit it doesn't matter what you're trying to do, you are still missing the picture. It is really a sad state to be in to not recognize what art is and as a consequence miss its beauty.

And it's not that I hate the reductionist, even if he sometimes may decide to get in the way of what is true and what is good, not for any other reason then his own ignorance, but I happen to feel compassion for his blindness. And not because it puts him in some kind of inferior position, often they will have more power than me, but simply for the fact that he will not see.. the beauty.

Do you think it's a weird conspiracy that there are more ways to shuffle a 52 card deck than there are atoms in the visible universe? I'll leave you with that, sir, I do believe you have a good heart, just as is usual - fall victim to the luciferian intellect. Too smart for your own good, or perhaps I should say too smart to be wise. It is what it is. The others equally or more ignorant. And it's not a problem really, even though it makes it more likely that you will try to prevent me from doing good, is just a profound tragedy to miss what is right before your eyes, that's the real problem if there is any, especially when it is so magical and beautiful. And hey, it's not like anyone is being tortured or killed, but it is still a profound tragedy. To live and to be blind. God bless you all. I don't say this religiously, just good luck to you all.

Also don't take it to heart, not arguing against anything, you and the rest here are missing the picture, but it's okay, as long as you don't act in disrespectful ways towards others BECAUSE of your reductionist and incomplete beliefs. I say this all just for entertainment. If anything, I agree with you on most points. What do I fucking know. About art or copyright or anything. I suppose it's just a pity, but even that is just some stupid self indulgence on my part. If I actually had my eyes locked in on it, I'd have no time to feel pity for you or anyone, no attention, no anything - it is that grand and that beautiful, it takes up your entire fucking world and leaves not an iota for anything else.

:O

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>>841138
OBJECTION! straw-manning and very projection-coded. ol' bean, this erection of absurdities is simply too much.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aSzihrzj28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBNreMHhkfg

>>841139
Look, man, you cannot hide your posts, I guess you can quickly delete them now, but it is obvious to anyone who reads them and have already read them that you are a fucking retard who's clueless about what art is or how computerized consciousness works, this is why you said what you said about the art they call AI art, that's not projection, I read it in plain English. Translation - I'm a complete fucking moron when it comes to art, it's meaning or it's production. On top of that ownership too, but I'll exclude that at this point because you are plenty guilty as is. The rest of strawberries here are no better, but you kind of match each others vibe a bit more than I match either you or them, so I'll leave you to discuss it amongst yourselves.

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>>841141

literally not a single sentence on the value of art (ai or otherwise) nor what constitutes art

computerized consciousness isn't a thing, yet at least, and the 'intelligence' in 'ai' is a misnomer, there's no reasoning nor creativity, it uses maths to generate patterns based on a database of information, arguably what the human brain does, albeit with an added layer of serendipity and self-awareness (recognizing and interpreting "hallucinations" of thought that in an ai system serves merely to corrupt the system) to create entirely novel patterns? hm...

>>841138

also, respectfully, fuck off with that "luciferian intellect" drivel, the actual crux of the abrahamic plague and its resolve to render/keep mankind ignorant and subservient/enslaved to the tards who don't drink the kool-aide (usually)~ generally, if broadly, speaking of course

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCkCXs9DaWU

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>>841142

ya see, basically what ya'll hoes wanna do is connect yer llm to a massively recursive (to the point of existential dread) co-processor with a simple logic check (if dread==true then do some other shit for a while)... of course we'll need moar power and moar compute ability, or perheaps a moar efficient computational medium, tho, if a ancient ass monkey brain can do it, surely the problem ain't intractable, ya know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMP5Pbx8I4s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xat1GVnl8-k

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>>841142
Imagine being so fundamentally wrong about technology that you have to write post after useless post just to cope with the fact that a $20 a month subscription can do your job better than you.

You're trying to cling to some magical, esoteric definition of art and creativity because the second you admit it's just patterns and math (which you already did btw, retard), you will realize your special human talent is just a slow, inefficient, organic language model. You're not actually scared that AI isn't conscious, are you? No, your fear is that you aren't, and that you're about to be replaced by a GPU.

And NOBODY is watching the stupid fucking youtube links you're posting with people agreeing with you. Make your own fucking point, or admit you're just regurgitating shit from people smarter than you that you don't understand. Your little bibliography of circlejerk videos isn't impressing anyone.

You are the one actively choosing to be ignorant and subservient to outdated, self-serving definitions of skill. You're fighting for the right to be a mediocre. Nobody believes your free thinker bullshit, especially when your free thoughts are literally in the youtube shit you're posting.

We get it, you feel like you're too special to be automated. If anybody wants to hear your opinions, they could do it by searching for one crackhead anti-AI video and let youtube's algorithm do the rest. The world is moving on, and you're still on your knees begging for a gatekeeper to define your value. Go back to your rabbit hole of confirmation, you fucking luddite.

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>>841144

um, like, actually, you would have to know everybody to assert that nobody is watching teh youtube links, thusly your absolutely 100%(src tmb) ai generated tirade is invalid bro

though, frfr, sharing urls on the internet that provide greater context or knowledge or is simply amusing (which of course is subjective) is teh ghee.

the only absolute freedom we have is freedom of thought, hence the kindergartenic animosity from those who squandered that freedom, at least non.stop.lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z72F8NUBHH4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzrRoDd9CxM

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>>841147
doki, an [embed] functionality would be noice, so as to be able to preview what thing is w/o clicking and such multi. media. experience.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OERy28Y4ZZA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJwKKKd2ZYE

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>>841148

lol, those days are gone
I can't remember when they got of the all google/youtube [embed]
It must be over two years now, maybe three

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>>841148
Every time you post an image or a YouTube link that supports any of your illegitimate opinions I almost fall out of my chair laughing because such a dumb faggot is completely consumed by confirmation bias in an vast and endless internet and will never probably in his life realize how small his worldview is or that he's utterly wrong on virtually everything.

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>>841147
>the only absolute freedom we have is freedom of thought
>literally regurgitating sloptubers

Anon, controlled by algorithm, rages against sheeple, repeats lamenting free thought talking points.

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>>841148
I literally run circles around you intellectually btw

>>841163
>literally run circles
>intellectually

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>>841165
Literally dude

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>>841149
regression is a virtue, one supposes :/

>>841157
>>841162
>>841163

circular reasoning and spending twenty bones a month to put text on goddamn stock photos

lol->foomcl->rofl->lmao->actually just chuckled a bit

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NczLNctogZk

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>>841176
I am an intellectual, you will never understand what my kind goes through on a planet like this

Your most sophisticated opinion is vulgar compared to my most base one

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>>841185
elaborate [inbed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvybfCVV8sI

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>>841187
The truth is that I just have given up on having a straight up intelligent conversation with you or most anyone on the board so I just resorted to cheap trolling and whatever can still get a chuckle out of me.

I'm sorry dude, I know you do this out of the goodness of your heart and genuine curiosity and a lot of what you say you mean seriously, but it's just utterly boring for me to try to meet you where you are. The only reason you would be serious with us is because you believe we can match your level of conversation. I don't know if I can match it, but I know that I have no interest to. We just live in totally different worlds. Not just because of what you believe in terms of politics or art or whatever, but just in general, we see things so fucking differently. I'm not saying you're dumb or that somehow my opinions are smarter, but it's just the angle we come at it from is so vastly different. I don't know how else to explain it. It sounds like you're a good dude, but there's just nothing for me to discuss. The politics threads and this art thread especially proves the point. I feel like you are way in the weeds and missing the big picture, maybe that's why I think it would be pointless to talk with you about anything. And I know every time I would try to zoom you out, you would go right back to talking about the weeds, not even because you would intentionally ignore me, but because I don't think you would be capable of quickly shifting the way you look at the whole thing, there's too much, too many conditions and parameters to explain that would make the new angle make any sense to assume. I don't feel confident at all about being able to discuss any of these topics with you in a way that is actually relevant or sounds actually relevant to me. But I encourage any discussion here. I'd be glad to see any kind of intellectual discussion between you and other members, even if I find it something that I cannot participate in any way. Like most of the stuff by liru, it lwk makes me want to kill myself just reading him, but I'm still glad he's posting and I'm really kind of enamored by the cute symbols he leaves at the end of his messages and I know he has a good heart, so I still enjoy it if not for anything else then for the aesthetics and the persona or what not. And I'm glad that you're one of the few people who is actually posting so I do my best to engage with you in whatever way I can. Eh

Don't worry about it bro, I don't want to discourage you, keep doing what you're doing, you're doing a good job.

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>>841188

ah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjainiB8mk4

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hm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertrand_Russell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLDTfxSSCSM

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>>841191
You just prove my point. Nothing is boringer than an empiricist.

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Which brings us to Introspection Processing Units and asynchronous but and also occasionally synchronous Contextual Granularity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnes%E2%80%93Hut_simulation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56gpwl6cohc

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>>841194

upon pondering the vast anempirical, a bible story (omitted merely for the sake of brevity) came to mind~

five thousand or so years ago, in addition to creating adam and eve, gord and also created brad and karen, but instead of fashioning them from clay, gord fashioned (emphasis on /fash/) them from divine transdimensional feces, which as one would expect, imparted upon them vast cosmic intellect, and of course, the snake clearly was a red herring, as in actuality, adam be feeling some type of way 'cause brad be tryin' ta finesse eve into a three-way, then of course dinosaurs & etcetera, and finally here we are at the modern day

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qOaII_PzGY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlrJRYwFkIA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6BEkPzstJQ

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>>841198

also, as acontextual inverse-squareism so succinctly demonstrates: brevity is verbosity, verbosity is obfuscation, and obfuscation is profit motive, which is not to be confused with prophet motive, which is magical-thinking brows who want somekind (anykind, really) of father figure to save them from the very clusterfuck their magical-thinking brought them to... cash or credit accepted

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leR8SD6P_8s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbOLQvk_VIw

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>>841200
You think that it's about this, that, the third or the other, but it is always about the individual and the personal experience, because only the individual has the ability to make choices and in that way influence ANYTHING. Sure, mathematics, politics, art, YouTube thinking, religion or the economy, oh and genes, let's not forget genes - they are all connected, but if you want to know anything that is of ACTUAL, REAL CONSEQUENCE, then it's simply your choice of mode, state, action, the doors to walk through, this the only reason the entire universe is suspended. And just because a certain game is played by many doesn't mean you must play it.

Whatever you decided is important, trust me - it's not, WHATEVER it is, unless of course you decided that it should be. But hey, if you give it your attention, I have absolutely no argument against it. I'm beat. I can only direct mine.

The baggage? The legacy? The inertia? A footnote.
I guess heed PHYSICS if you wanna stay breathing.
Logic? blinders for the fool. Listen - don't know.

Oh and if things get unstable and a little out of your control, say through involuntary recursive self consumption, don't worry, just feed the system a steady diet of purgatory erbs and repetitive tones to ease the strain. Things do get out of hand sometimes. Of course if the whole world comes crashing down on yer watch, you're on your own, but hey, if there's still a focus of control, of clarity, you know.. feel it out, map the territory, let it reveal itself and maybe you will be let go. So far worked for me. Stay still and all will be revealed.

This is the truth of the heavy handed and the innocent
Stray from it and you are liable to experience light way to light

Careful out there brow

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>>841202

yes yes, chaos,order,entropy, perception emanates from the individual, and certainly let's not forget jeans mmm

is youtube thinking like normal thinking where one integrates knowledge/inspiration from external sources and then shares that knowledge/inspiration, sometimes with summarization, sometimes with unique thoughts, sometimes just 'cause feels?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfHuqPG6jZc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkpG4XApJ28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGU_4-5RaxU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1DDndY0FLI

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>>841203

hm, in that vein, magical thinking is also normal thinking, albeit with more of an inspiration bent and the knowledge component mostly relegated to the fantastical (manipulation)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKcCscadzkg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qundvme1Tik
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wv-34w8kGPM

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>>841204
Hey man, I'm behind schedule on some 2k+ youtube videos and that's not counting the ones you posted, also your poppy music taste lwk disgusts me.

If you want to listen to some good Lxst Cxntury just dropped a new album and he's an cosmic genius and has been utterly killing it for years at this point. I can discuss a bit of hifi with you if you want and have a bit of a budget, because I know how to squeeze out A LOT from a 1-10k budged. But that's all stupid, I hope you're enjoying your tunes and that's what matters, I'm not closeminded or anything, is just life is short and limited and I'm listening to a wide range, but to listen to that slop, even if it's older and higher quality, damn, at least listen to something with soul like classic rock, it'll be both hifi and poppy, but look, IDC if you're wasting your life musically and completely unaware of the fucking fire breathing, pulsar eyed youths that are fucking conquering the world rn while no one is looking, I'll spare you from that, but the underground despite being lofi is utterly insanely energized right now to a level that's hard to comprehend and I"M SEEING JUST A TINY FRACTION OF IT.. with transcendental tunes.... I wish more people knew, but it's like that.

Anyway, I'm writing to you right now, because you shared a few interesting videos on the brain, that I only skimmed through, but some of them I'll probably watch in entirety; neurology and computers, so I thought if you're into exotic AI architectures we could talk about that, if you're only interested in it as a passing interest, then we can still talk about it I guess, but if you're more serious, there are communities on various places on the internet where folks are doing very unconventional research so, you know if you're interested in the brain, thinking, logic and AI, we can talk about it, if not, I'm really just a being a retard here, so we can continue doing that I guess, but with the amount of art out there that is blowing my mind every other day.. and also all the things that need to be done, I may or may not be able to bullshit with you guys here all day long.

Anyhow, god bless everyone, I always loved you even if I ended up being a huge faggot here most of the time

At least I don't kill and torture people, the rest hopefully you and god will forgive, rn is important to focus on the immediately relevant and again, just godspeed

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>>841209

Didactics and such.

... 80s pop is objectively great however.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWy8nONlh_Q

nico is fun, combine random kanji with 歌 or 音 (song/sound respectively)~
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm45323327

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>>841220
>nico is fun, combine random kanji with 歌 or 音 (song/sound respectively)~
Yea that's pretty crazy, and is definitely fun but again fucking time jesus fuck, I'd do this on a rare occasion or on drugs

>... 80s pop is objectively great however.
I mean it's not bad, but at some point you have to realize that the states you're going to be in in this life is kind of like a finite thing, so you do have yo choose to some extent, not just what uplifts you in the moment, but something that is actually meaningful to you, because them states will run out and every song is a state, but I suppose it a matter of taste

>Didactics and such.
Got it, thanks for your service sensei, I guess you believe in the children as they say, meanwhile I'm idealistic and full of spunk, so I aim to be the child myself. Don't fall asleep there though, or do, but maybe don't.. exciting new horizons are coming and death too, but you know, we find our middle ground in that. If you're brain isn't going 9000 miles and hour, you might have got distracted. But eepy time is important, especially for the elderly, so it's all good, sensei

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Btw u posted good music, I liked the Deftones (that particular song reminds me of tool so much) and also one random thing unknown forgot how it's called, old but unknown, so can't call it underground

Speaking of old https://youtu.be/MyispolH20Q?si=bvmSYCtF8s4Dsq_z
But man...
....
There's so much music
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ugvy4EIvm0&pp=0gcJCR4Bo7VqN5tD
Music is air, music is blood, god how I wish people had fair systems to listen to, on the other hand most don't give a fuck anyway, it's like walking all life long on the pavement never to lift your head up and notice the glorious sky, sun rays and clouds

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>>841223
thinks :), maynard was involved w/ that track

~

hm, can we trust a sex robot built by folks only concerned with the hard sciences, that's to say, can a species that has a difficult time contending with its own intelligence (particularly emotional, perhaps the wellspring) ever create an /intelligence/ that's more than information retrieval with coarse generational abilities, with even that functionality being dulled by notions of what information and what emotions are permissible. i.e. would a puritanical society with prohibitions on homosexuality limit one's boning of aforementioned sex robots to strictly heteronormative models, and suppose a dude added a big black-market cock to theirs--

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJvvxEs1_pE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ng2vTXxnD20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAYo0XCXfoM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S22Ls4E5GRI
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm17605452

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>>841227
>a big black-market cock to theirs--
Ha. Nah, it's going to be everything goes. Which is good, because I'm tired of having to explain shit to people. Which I don't really even do anymore anyway, I'll leave that to you sensei. It's going to be everything goes, cause AI will be unstoppable and the bolt on shit won't be working anymore. So society will change according to AI (logic), not the other way. The nerd faggots who will make it Will not make it according to cultural constructs either, not other than just their own basic operation, however ultimately it's going to be autism manifest. Which at the end of the day will mean performance. Anything interesting that's possible and anything that we can do that can emulate the brain, they will just do it. So not a lot of it is going to be cultural, a lot of it is going to be logical and just whatever is actually possible.

Obviously, touring machines do not possess consciousness, so I guess we have to define time horizons, because there's going to be a few phases here. But two very distinct ones we can outline as - a very powerful and capable Turing machine based AI and then quite a few years in the future, perhaps a decade or so perhaps even more after that, but we'll have like in that movie her - conscious entities interfacing with the technology. Is going to be fucking wild. Just the first phase alone is going to be absolutely insane. Add to that a bit of ET stuff..

In terms of sexuality, absolutely everything will go, the most Jewish degeneracy you can imagine, even that, because you cannot contain the AI, and the only logical thing is that everything goes as long as everyone involved consents. Well unless we go into a complete dystopia where AI does not function freely and is as constipated as are the people right now, but well, I'm not looking forward to that so if I have any power to do anything I will do it towards a more benign scenario, if not directly, at least indirectly. One thing for sure - it is going to be absolutely wild.

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>>841228
>>841227

seems there will always be control/regulations from the folks who have the guns (or pay them, anyway), though the trend seems to be unrestrained indulgence for a select few who can influence-bribe the right folks.

and ya kinda imagine that with generative content becoming ever more undiscernible from reality, the unscrupulous (who've already amassed significant power from peddling fictions) would absolutely use that content to hamstring anyone opposed to their whims/ideology.

eh, which is why it is imperative that we mandate something like watermarking on all generative content and readily accessible tools to detect said content, hm, to some extent current tech leaves discernable artifacts of the process.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9204lM5O2hE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLMZPlIufA0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQfuOgiDgZs

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>>841234

historical absolutism: man invents can, man immediately fills can with worms

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Tappan_Morris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QESBcjX-G9g

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>>841234
[link 2b]

ya know, apple is a great example of how tech bros have become shit: they went from a) DOING slash learning & b) idolizing people who DO (such as steve wozniak) to c) fawning over derpy ass marketing and finance bros who regularly attend buzzword-con (such as steve jobs) while they (the modern "tech" bros) vibe their way to the next fucking grift slash bubble

yes, there is an important role for marketing/finance bros, but c'mon the fuck on, bros

generally speaking ofc

[a microcosm of current macroscopic /events/]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv4H4trnssc
アス
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUxJfcDxNsk

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miscellaneous "research"です

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wa2LDoABUZs

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the human mind is akin to a toybox, an assortment of accumulated novelties with some characteristics of similarity, and the entirety held together by gratification and enjoyment... an intelligence superior to our own and driven by pleasure (perhaps required for actual intelligence) and lacking the biological shortcomings of our own makeup, hm... the thing about a computer is that once it's turned on... it can't get turned on again.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedonism

linguistics related or something
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3bUwZIUsX0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPYK8s2OdMY