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>>839302
Well yeah, maybe a discussion, but not about that.
I think, besides the many peripheral things that we don't agree on, our identification of the core issues is completely.... different. So much so that I'm at a loss of words.
Rotten systems I don't mind, they're all rotten and have been for the last 5k years at least, maybe tribal native americans had something nice idk.
But no longer being able to take a step back from it (rotten system) is what I'm talking about. This has happened before and is happening now in Best Korea (high level oppression), and it's a spectrum and some places are better and some are worse, but besides pretty bad tyranny, we'll have something quite new in some ways which is that you will be known and identified pretty much as soon as you have a diverging thought.
Although I guess lack of freedom of speech is already a point of almost no return... The elite always existed. But with the kind of powers that's coming to it, it can get way out of hand.
Idk dude I'm just rambling tbh
I guess this is all an old story repeated through history.
But the level of technology and the fact of how much it's integrated into ppls life nowadays, creates a new situation perhaps.
Right now we can load into tails and access internet and have private computing and all that, but the trend is that this will get more and more difficult to achieve, which means technology might become accessable obly to those who are state approved and only think, explore, research or write things that are state approved. This isn't yet complete thought police, but it kind of means that the wealth of information available to you through the freedom of the internet...
What I'm saying is that technology might get restricted to those who follow the guidelines of the state. This has not ever happened before. I think it's quite dangerous.
Yes you can think whatever you want in the comfort of your own home and your own head and if you don't say that to anyone and don't write it down, you'll be safe. I mean you are free to explore ideas that are not state approved. But if you have to hide everything... I don't know, I guess I'm saying that we are very lucky that we still have the ability to explore the internet relatively anonymously. Access technology relatively anonymously. And that those things are not yet state-controlled. It's quite big.
Imagine if all devices and all internet became controlled - if you need a functioning device capable of connecting to the internet, you need an ID for example. And what you do there on the internet is tracked every step of the way. Not in terms of somebody sitting there and tracking you, but in terms of AI looking for patterns of people who are dangerous to the state. That's a very dangerous place to be in and we are not yet there, but... Given where it seems to be going, perhaps it's wise to do something to ensure that we don't end up there.
I don't want to become a haxor just to be able to access technology and do and research whatever I want with it. Idk. Also you are retarded dude, holy fuck. Or just unfamiliar with many things, but more likely retarded. Don't worry bout it tho, I'm shizo retard, just expressing his honest opinion. Also my opinion is that 99.9% of people are retarded especially women and niggers, niggers are for the most part just straight up biologically capped in terms of this whole autistic analytical process, women less so, but women are very rare where I exist in. Which is the right end of the bell curve. But yeah, from here everyone is retarded. I'm not saying you're super retarded, but I guess I still get surprised by just your ordinary run of the mill retarded.
Luckily I can relate to the retards. Im one myself. The problem is they cant relate to me. Because I'm also a genius. Curse of dimensionality illustrates this perfectly.
Tl;dr tyranny is nothing new, elites always existed in every model of society, middle class is nice and good, technology permeates, we're still capable of living tech free without penalties to our freedom (technology is not mandatory yet), technology is taking an unprecedented turn, access to technology might become controlled in a major way. Relatively free internet might become extremely underground and extremely small. Something like that.
Well, I guess none of that matters much, because if we don't get AI right, we're all fucked.
I guess my main concern is that with the way things are going, I will no longer be able to research freely on the internet. I can survive without expressing my opinions. I can be neutered in terms of my public image, I don't mind, but if I cannot exercise my true intentions privately... That becomes a bit of an issue I think.
But yeah, again, this is like worrying about a dog running towards me intending to bite my leg while standing on the train tracks and the huge train coming my way.
AI is the big train. My technologal activity being completely tracked and analyzed is the puppy dog.
These essays help me figure out my own thoughts, so in that sense thanks for the input. It helped me get closer to the core even if you pretty much completely missed my original sentiment. Pleasure speaking to you sir